Krakauer: "I'm Stupid."

Thanks there Krak, we knew that:

From Peg McEntee's column at the Salt Lake Tribune - "(Jon Krakauer) said he made a 'stupid comment' when he blamed the high court’s 'close ties to the LDS Church' and the 'political basis' of the judgment.

'I apologize to the justices,' he said. 'That was not fair.'

But he still believes the ruling, which means a new trial for Jeffs if prosecutors decide to go that way, was a 'terrible decision.' "

So he admits he gets worked up and shoots his mouth off in an emotional way and says things he later regrets.

So, Jon, about that tape. Did you HEAR the tape? Did you see the transcript of "the tape?" How can you assure us it was genuine or did you just hear or see something that you didn't verify, and then shot your mouth off?

Krak also says he's "emotionally invested in these victims," when referring to former FLDS members. He's simply telling us he has lost all objectivity, and is rationalizing his behavior.

"Krakauer (also) thinks the evidence in (the Texas) case (against Warren Jeffs) 'is bomb-proof, riveting and disgusting. I think things look really good there. Texas should and will prosecute.' "

And so Peg becomes the second "journalist" to not ask Jon how he knows that, or to question the objectivity of his assessment.  And to give him a clean shot and a platform to make his assertions.

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Meet John Krackore

He can't get enough air, or air time.

Watch him spin over at Sore Toes. The funny send up names of Jon Krakauer continue to get more and more hilarious and they're so obvious.

I'm not not thinking of any of them first. I'd be furious, if I wasn't laughing so hard.

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Warren's "Porn" (real or fake) probably predates The Raid

I just posted this over at "The Polygamy File" at the Salt Lake Tribune:

The more I think about it, the more I think “The Tape” or “The Transcript,’ exists. If so, the likelihood that it/they were in the possession of authorities prior to the raid is very high. This is the reason that Jonny knows about it. It was probably brought to him by his bagman Sammy Shamus.

Examine the pattern of the raid and what they were looking for and what they were so sure they (Texas) would find. The belief in the “informant” (there would have to be such an informant to have “The Tape/Transcript”) seemed righteous to me. What I mean by righteous is it seemed to me Doran really believed it.

Subsequently on the news we heard ravings about the “sex bed” and so on. The Ranch was searched looking for pictures of Jeffs’ 12 year old bride and looking for the things described on “The Tape/Transcript” that Jonny describes. The media coverage fit a template leading up to the “discovery” of such a “Tape.”

So I have no doubt “The Tape” and/or “The Transcript” exists. What I doubt is that they found it at YFZ. All sorts of rumors have been floated about “The Tape” and “The Transcript” in the day and a half since it’s disclosure by Jonny on AC, but I’m telling you, if Texas had it, Texas would have had Warren a long time ago.

If there is corruption as Toobin and Krakauer suggest in the court system, it would be because “The Tape” IS genuine and was discovered recently and this was told to Conn and the Supremes in Utah, and they paved the way to turn Warren over to Texas.

I wouldn’t listen to the news again for 20 years after that, it’s going to be X-Rated Child Porn. You couldn’t watch ABC’s “Wide World of Sports” for 30 years without seeing that guy crack up on the ski ramp. You can’t talk about Nixon without Watergate and we won’t be able to hear about polygamy without “hearing every grunt.”

I've held my tongue too many times before (believe it or not) and watched events pass me by. For instance, I knew that the Supremes were going to spring Warren before they did. If "Blogger" keeps original time stamps recorded somewhere, an examination of my Dashboard would tell you that's true. The above goes out on a limb, and if I find the time I'll piece together all the disparate circumstantial evidence that matches the pattern of the search and behavior of LE at YFZ during the raid and what was said about the raid before during and right after it. I can still remember Bill O'Reilly ranting about the "sex bed."

To me at least, the pattern of the raid looked very much as if they had a "treasure map" and were looking for specific items. Doran did appear to me to be a "true believer" in the "informant." If faked, "The Tape" is the "New Sarah" that is being used to justify everything in a fight that has now retreated almost entirely to Texas. Texas, where Judges are elected and subject to political influence in a very real way.

If real it's either the proverbial "other shoe" or "trump card" that Texas has been keeping their powder dry on for over two, maybe three or four years. One still wonders why it wasn't on the warrant, unless they were looking for "The Original Tape" and didn't want people to know that was what they were looking for.

But if it is true, it's been in the hands and mouths of the biggest blabbermouths and attention whores West of the Pecos now for 2-4 years, and they've also held their tongue on it, until Tuesday, when Jonny shot his mouth off, and Anderson Cooper showed his colors by not asking him, "How do you know this?"

Do I have to go into a long explanation on the chain of custody on this "evidence?"

Tony Alamo's bust occurred after all the mistakes of YFZ, and the "Kiddie Porn" allegation was front and center. You can't get me to believe that this wouldn't have been smeared all over the media if they had it and had real corroboration. This "Tape" is an urban legend that is being passed around as the real thing. IMHO of course.

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Cooper - Krakauer - (Carolyn) Jessop - Toobin

I'm glad I watched the Arizona Attorney General's interview first (Terry Goddard). This interview oscillates between pathetic, to unbelievable to people simply emoting because they did not get their way. They're appalled, stunned, bewildered, blah, blah, blah. The decision was UNANIMOUS folks.

Watch it, then follow the link back and watch the Terry Goddard interview. The key thing AG Goddard says is that the Utah Supreme court decision was right, even though he is "disappointed."

I'm really convinced that a large portion of the behavior of both Arizona and Utah in prosecuting Warren is to protect Elissa Wall. She lied under oath and manufactured evidence She cannot go back to court without being tried (eventually) for perjury. Ok, it's not JUST to protect Elissa Wall, it's also to protect those who offered her as a credible witness and built the world's strangest prosecution around her.

Now go watch the Terry Goddard interview. Another thing, I wouldn't trust Anderson Cooper farther than I could throw him, he's clearly bought in as well. Why does NO ONE ask Jon how he knows about this "tape?" Why is he accepted as "Mr. Expert on the law and everything else under the sun?"

I'm going to repeat what I have said elsewhere. Upon reflection the decision of the Utah Supreme Court was codespeak for the fact that there should have been a directed verdict of "Not Guilty" after the prosecution rested. There was no case. Since the Judge failed to grant that motion, the Utah Supreme Court said that the Jury should have been instructed that what they (the Jury) saw as the prosecution's case was no case at all. The prosecution was trying to peer into Warren's soul, and absent Warren's public confession of what his state of mind was, there simply could be no determination of "Guilty."

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Darth Krakauer strikes back! Warren made a Porn!

Darth Krakauer

Brooke Adams has a transcript of the "Anderson Cooper" program, in which Jon Krakauer makes an interesting and startling claim:

"The Polygamy File:

KRAKAUER: Right. The one — the one silver lining in this is if Texas — if Utah decides not to retry Warren, he will be more quickly extradited to Texas, where he faces very serious charges, much more serious, not as an accomplice to rape but an actual rapist.

And the evidence, in the raid of 2008, they uncovered a treasure trove of evidence, including a tape recording and a transcript of Warren raping a 12-year-old girl. Actually, she had been 11 until 24 days earlier.

She had been forced to marry Jeffs. She was raped in the temple on a special bed. Two of Jeffs’s older wives participated in the rape. It was tape recorded. Every grunt and perverted prayer and command to this girl.

And that, and a lot of other evidence is likely to convict Warren, put him behind bars for life — for four life terms, I think, to face the charges.

TOOBIN: Texas and Utah now have to sort out what’s going to happen. It seems likely to me that this decision will scotch this case. This girl — [Elissa] will no longer have to testify. They’ll just move the whole operation to Texas and bring those more serious charges there. But –

COOPER: Do you think politics played a role in this, in Utah?

TOOBIN: You know what? I don’t know. I mean, I just don’t know enough about the Utah Supreme Court.

But, you know, this is a very unusual ground to overturn a conviction. Jury — jury instructions have to be correct, but judges usually, you know, give trial judges a certain amount of latitude here.

COOPER: Right.

TOOBIN: And given the magnitude of these charges and given the fact that these jury instructions didn’t even relate to the core issue in the case, I am bewildered by this decision. And it certainly bears looking into, whether there is some political connection between these judges."

One of my first reactions is this opens a whole "chain of evidence" issue. Jon Krakauer is a filmmaker. Filmmakers are expert at making the unreal, seem as if it happened.

Get my drift?

This is the new offensive. Warren Jeffs is such a monster we can't let him out. Everything must be done to keep him in jail. The rights of all must be suspended. The pressure will mount on the Texas judiciary to bypass the law. The pressure was on Utah's Supreme Court to bend the law, the pressure on Texas' Supreme Court will be enormous, if in fact there is such a tape.

This also puts pressure on supporters. Is there such a tape? Is it real? I'm a parental consent guy, if there was parental consent then I have to consistently state that there was no moral wrong in giving a girl in marriage. There would be no moral wrong from a legalistic standpoint based on that act alone.

There is the question of love. I'd have a hard time seeing it as a loving act, to put it mildly.

There is the question of law. It's illegal. Period. There was never a need to do it and doing it flouts the law, and that's the barest way to put it. Why would you do that?

There is the obvious stupidity of Warren (if this is true). He would be the modern day Richard Nixon squared. Cubed even. Recording yourself having sex with a barely 12 year old girl? That's a death wish. Again, why WOULD you do that?

This brings up the other question of timing. If this tape existed, it's been leaked before. The whole business of the "sex bed" is more understandable in that light. Texas knew what it was looking for. But again, if they KNEW this, why wasn't it a basis for the raid? You have a sex tape with a 12 year old being "persuaded" to have relations, that's probable cause. It revives the idea of Doran's confidential "Informant" as real, and it places that informant very close to Warren.

That too raises a chain of custody issue.

Apparently this tape has been circulated among the "anti's." Unless it's a videotape though, I don't know how you prove anything with it. We'll see I guess.

Oh, and this is one thing for sure, Krakauer is an idiot to suggest that Utah jail Warren for a crime that he couldn't commit against Elissa, because of a crime he seems to have committed (in Jon's ears), to a girl in Texas.

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