Wednesday, January 14, 2009

Welcome to the ObamaNation


Hat tip to My Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.
What can I say? I love good art.
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Ringing in the Era of State Sponsored Religion, in North America.

A premise for you to consider, if you think yourself capable of detached rational thought. Suppose, just for a moment, that God has created Men, directly in his image, and women, as a derivative of men, taken out of men, still reflecting God's image, but for man.
Namely, women would not exist if they were not for men. To read and accept as truth the creation story of Genesis you would have to come to this conclusion, or at least you'd be likely to. Now read Mindelle Jacobs article;

The Winnipeg Sun - "If we didn't like it, we wouldn't be here," a 28-year-old Bountiful mother of five who shares her husband with another woman told Sun Media last week. "It's as normal as a family can be."


This should be accepted at face value. If we do not accept this at face value, then we have to appoint religion and thought police to regulate what is acceptable to believe, and what religions are permitted. Mindelle believes she is qualified.

"(the above) comments reflect the devastating damage that the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS) and its polygamous lifestyle is having on Bountiful girls.

Females raised to believe that sharing their partners with multiple sister-wives is normal have been psychologically stunted by a sex-driven patriarchy. They just don't know it."


And of course, Mindelle is here to set things right. To accomplish this though, the religion of the Latter Day Saints must be completely eradicated. All their books burned, sought out, destroyed and its adherents marched off to concentration camps and systematically exterminated. This is not hyperbolic, it is a fact. Religions survive on fundamentalism. If it's just a cool story reflective of something in our collective psyche that deserves to be examined, reexamined and reinterpreted in the context of changing conditions and our ongoing evolution as a society, once that is known, the religion dies.

People by and large come to religion to get answers. They may be deluded and in fact we would have to say if we believe in objective truth in religion and the physical world, all religions save one, are delusions. If we deal with a God who delights in cruelty, or no God at all, then they're all delusions.

Elitists come to religion because of the crowd it gathers, because they have their own ego-centric agenda, they see a crowd, and they want access to that crowd so as to manipulate them, for their own purposes. Such persons are theological liberals, talking in God Words and Phrases that sound as if they agree with the fundamental tenets of a faith, but in fact, do not. What Mindelle proposes, and just doesn't know it, is that she believes society is the ultimate authority, and certifies all religion. Society is expressed through Government. Government is God. Government is content to allow religion to exist, as long as Government can tell religion what to believe.

Mindelle, religions die if the great unwashed out here (us) cease to believe that their God has sway over all worldly things. They abandon their religion. They may seek another. They do not stay in a "faith" that is shown to be simply a form of self expression or worse, government manipulation. Religions that hold to a basic set of beliefs without changing, grow or persist. Religions that change with the times shrink and are eventually abandoned.

I believe the LDS/Mormon/FLDS faith to be wrong. I would have to. I'm Orthodox Presbyterian. It is not however my place to tell them what to believe, for if it became my place to do so, by agency of the Government, then I too would submit to Government telling me what to believe. That's not going to happen.

She then descends to hysteria and falsehoods.

"Canada does not permit female genital mutilation -- a barbaric cultural/quasi-religious practice."


Female genital mutilation is a "quasi-religious practice" at best. It is irreversible. Government has no problem with divorce, so let these women do as they see best, regardless of who programmed them. If they're outwardly happy in their programming. There's nothing you can do, and more importantly, nothing you should do, other than talk to them if they are willing.

"Nor do we condone so-called honour killings of women deemed to have breached the norms of sexual behaviour. Such killings, tragically, are slowly creeping into western societies."


"Honour Killings" again are irreversible. At least in the Christian faith and its offshoots and new religions that have their roots in Christianity, civil punishment is not the province of the church. The only tool open to them is excommunication. Winston Blackmore is in Canada for precisely that reason.

Judaism can only practice its "intolerance" within the borders of its nation and to its fullest extent among its adherents while in that nation. Don't come to me and tell me it proposes stoning children in this country for disobedience. I have not seen any stories that suggest otherwise.

Christians and Jews in the United States and Canada need to wake up and stand with the FLDS, with Warren Jeffs, with Winston Blackmore and Jim Oler. If we do not, we're next. I have only to change a few words in the above quotes of Ms. Jacobs article. What if her article said this?

"her comment reflects the devastating damage that the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and its chauvinistic heterosexual lifestyle is having on young homosexuals who are programmed to live as heterosexuals.

Lesbians raised to believe that traditional marriage roles are normal have been psychologically stunted by a sex-driven patriarchy. They just don't know it."


Of course, then those victims would need her protection too. I'm warning all religious people, if a line is not drawn in the sand here, with the FLDS, defending their beliefs, we'll be next. Physical damage can be said to be the province of government. Once they become thought police, legislating what we can believe as damaging to us or not damaging to us, we are in the worst sort of trouble.
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The Daily Kos weighs in on FLDS Raids, again. Surprise, Surprise, I agree completely with them, it's about Religion!

There's always an overlap between conservatives and liberals on the issue of civil liberty and in that overlap is the space where Libertarians dwell. With that in mind, what did the "Daily Kos" say?
It's sad that as evidenced by articles like this, the area of libertarian intersection fails to grow. Read on.

Shane Hensinger - "I've stated this again and again. Persecuting and arresting polygamous Mormons is based on nothing more than a distaste and revulsion with polygamous relationships, which are fundamental to their religion. Despite all the claims to the contrary (FLDS practices welfare fraud (debunked), FLDS beats their children (debunked), child brides (happens but much less than claimed) and others the governments of the US and now Canada continue to harass FLDS members with failed raids and even more poorly thought-out prosecutions. History is littered with examples of these kinds of failed raids, from Short Creek in 1953 to Eldorado in 2008 and guess who has come out on top every single time? The FLDS.

I'm willing to bet this time things won't turn out any different but Canada is going to look a whole lot different when polygamy is legalized in the inevitable challenges the FLDS and other polygamous people are now sure to bring against the law currently prohibiting its practice."


I am as raging a conservative as I can possibly be. Kos? It is widely regarded as the most foaming at the mouth liberal site (by conservatives) on the net, yet what have I to disagree with here?
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The 21st Century Pharisee

One of my prayers has been answered. I was offered some tech help, and of course, took it. The Modern Pharisee is now even more modern, over the next few weeks, months, years, I hope to make more changes to improve the blog. Want to know how?
The first change relates to page rank which I am finding is hardly an arbitrary category. By hiding some of the content behind a "read more" teaser (as my helpful assistant calls it), I get two things. Page rank tells me with rough approximation who became more involved in a post to the point of "reading past the fold" or to the "continued" section of an article.

This crowds more content to the front page of the blog which in times of old (newspapers) was called "above the fold." If a newspaper is lying in front of you the most important content in terms of exposure is "above the fold." At a newspaper stand or seller or vendor, that's what you would see to attract you to buy the paper. Buying it is one level of interest (the Modern Pharisee's content is FREE) and opening it, another and going past page one to other pages, yet another.

Content is why people come to a publication. The front page is the honey for the bear. The rest of the publication in a less than perfect world is how content gets paid for. Content goes to work and advertisers clamor increasingly for space next to popular content. When you click to the "Read More" portion of the article on the front page, more space is available for advertising and appears next to the article of interest.

On the internet, articles have keywords and advertising tends to be relevant to those keywords and also relevant to viewer origin. You might see "Bitter Root Motors" and I might see "New Haven Nissan" because of where we are located. If the article is about Baboons, we might both see an ad for a local zoo or a "save the Baboon" fund.

All of this is to increase blog rank, position as a result of search engine inquiries and revenue. Revenue makes the Modern Pharisee warm at night, eat when he's hungry and give him a bigger carbon footprint. In view of the fact that we're not really warming anymore, but cooling instead, it is my social obligation to belch, smoke cigars, leave big clouds of diesel soot and otherwise cloud the planet with greenhouse gasses. As God intended.
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Tuesday, January 13, 2009

Justice may be blind, but can it be wooed?

Hat tip to "VESTA Status of Womens News" for noticing this one. I wouldn't say it's a blog populated by fellow travelers, but it's about the funniest thing the opposition has come up with. There is also a reprinted and well reasoned piece immediately below this cartoon, Joey Thompson writes;

"(I)n an interview Friday, (Wally Oppal) was unrepentant -- quick to rebut those, including his own staff in the Criminal Justice Branch, who figure he should directly ask the province's top appeal judges for their legal take on whether all of us can wed willy-nilly, given every citizen's right to freely pursue their religious beliefs.



Oppal told me the case against the constitutionality of polygamy stands a much better chance if B.C. can prove the extramarital lifestyle sexually exploits and harms women and kids. But first they need evidence that it does exploit -- thus, the police investigation and subsequent criminal prosecution of the self-appointed bishops."

Joey writes for "the Province" and her article was originally printed there. To balance that, there is this from Grant Maxwell.

The Daily News (Nanaimo) - "Previously, there were two significant societal changes that I believed were instituted solely because of idealism.

The first was the implementation of the metric system by Trudeau. There simply wasn't a need or desire for that change.

The second was the fast ferries. Again there wasn't much desire or demand for faster ferries but an elected official knew better than the rest of us.

I suggest the same is true of the polygamy charges laid by Wally Oppal. He had to shop this idea to three people before he found someone who agreed. Since there are no sexual exploitation charges, there is no interest. I would suggest that if the province were to ban plastic bags the talk shows and editorial pages would be burning up compared to this yawn fest. Oppal may be fighting the good fight but for whom?

He has stuck his neck out a long way here and many believe he will lose. The risk/reward ratio on this is far too high."

I tend to agree with Grant, that the fight is not being fought for anybody, unless you count busibodies that stare in bedroom windows and become even more excited (YFZ) when they cannot. If Oppal tries to really win the case, it will probably be along the lines of abuse, which they will now have to find, and they will need witnesses, who claim to be victims.

The cartoon may have to be rewritten, with Wally Oppal down on his knees, Romancing the Stone carving of Blind Justice.



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FLDS and Texas position themselves. The Jury.

Trial dates are now set for the Jessop custody case in September, and the alleged adult molesters in October. What goes on in between? Well, for one, a little legal jury tampering.

The Salt Lake Tribune - "Willie Jessop met with the four-member commission during a recess in a criminal hearing for 10 FLDS men being held on an upper floor of the county courthouse.

Jessop, spokesman for the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints, invited the commissioners to 'mosey out' to the ranch as part of a plea that the county 'acknowledge we exist.'

More pointedly, Jessop said the FLDS feel they aren't fairly represented in the county despite the ranch's status as the third largest property taxpayer.

'Do we have a say on what goes on in the county at all?' Jessop asked.

He questioned why no FLDS had been called to serve on juries in the small county, which has a jury pool of 2,500.

Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran explained the random selection process, which draws jurists from voter's registration and drivers license records. About 140 FLDS members registered to vote after the April 3 raid on the ranch."

Several trials, and 2500 available potential jurors represent an interesting problem as there are now several FLDS related trials, the custody trial of Merrianne Jessop coming first, from another article;

"(Barbara Walther) acknowledged that seating a second jury in Schleicher County after the initial trial could be difficult. There are 2,500 people in the county's jury pool, she said. She recently had to cull through 175 names to get 45 people qualified for an unrelated criminal case."

Willie also said after pointing to the prodigious amount of Tax YFZ contributes;

"(I)t now feels like 'we're paying for our own demise.'

Jessop told the commissioners that the sect needs 'your help in giving us some ideas on what we can do to be the best neighbors.'

The response from the commission? 'Duly noted,' said commissioner and county judge Charlie Bradley."

We're now getting an idea of what jury trial in small town America used to be like. There weren't a lot of available jurors, they all knew you if you were local. They had to balance what they knew about you, what they knew would be the result of the trial with what they believed about your guilt. They could also, in the end, practice jury nullification, deciding as a "jury of peers" that the law, not the defendant was wrong. Jury nullification is an old principle, dating back to the days of our founders, and part of the principle behind the idea of jury trial. It is rarely included in any kind of jury instruction by the judge, but it is not a constitution twisting idea, rather it is an anti despotism idea. "If you make laws that don't apply to us, fine," the idea goes. "We'll just vote against them one by one as they come up, in our community." It's the American Citizen's right to hold a little revolution, right in their own town, and go home in time for dinner. It is designed to prevent dominance of one branch of government over another, through criminalization. Texas can make it illegal to have open pit barbecues, but Scheicher County can just refuse to convict.

If Texas has trouble coming up with neighbors who will convict the FLDS after they've had all year to campaign with the locals, that's their problem. If Texas can't find enough jurors without including those of a major religion in Scheicher County, they should have thought of these things first. It's going to be a literal hot house environment, as well as a political hot house. The courthouse in Eldorado, has no air conditioning.

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Monday, January 12, 2009

Bird Bowl !

An All Avian AFC-NFC Super Bowl match up is possible for the first time in NFL history.
Provided of course, that the Ravens beat the Steelers. The NFC is already decided. Either the Cardinals or the Eagles will go.

The Last Big Bird Bowls were NFL championship games, coming in 1947 when the then Chicago Cardinals won, and then the following year, Philadelphia won. The two teams will finally renew their championship rivalry this Sunday, 60 years later, albeit for just the NFC side of the equation.
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Brent Hunsaker, ABC 4, Nails it.

It's a test case.


KTVX - "After years of investigation by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Crown's prosecuting attorneys in British Columbia charged the leaders of two polygamist groups (one is F.L.D.S., the other a splinter group) with one count each of polygamy.

Just one count each. A test case.

Backed by a strong anti-polygamy law, section 293 of the Canadian Criminal Code, B.C. District Attorney Wally Oppal argues he doesn't have to look for crime within polygamy, polygamy itself is the crime. His case may well hinge on proving that polygamy by definition is abuse. Whether the man is kind or mean, principled or ruthless, polygamy is inherently abusive of women and children.

That is very different from the approach of Shurtleff and Goddard. The question is, which is the better?

If Oppal succeeds, it could open the door to hundreds of prosecutions in Canada. Even the mere threat of such prosecutions could lead to a mass exodus of polygamists from Bountiful -- that's what they call their community in the Creston Valley of British Columbia.

And where do you think all those Canadian polygamists would end up? Yep. Here. In polygamist enclaves in South Dakota, Nevada, Texas, Arizona and Utah.

We should pay close attention to what happens in a Canadian courtroom. It may well have irrevocable consequences for those of us in the States."


And yes, he also notes correctly it will have effects here. Either by sending Canadian polygamists our way, or by emboldening our Law Enforcement, or by pressuring us to legalize it because of our close ties. Canada in a way should be applauded. Now we'll know.
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Daphne Bramham's analysis provides no simple answer?

I've found the Article, "ANALYSIS: POLYGAMY - Why don't the Bountiful, B.C., charges include sexual exploitation? The answer is simple" - Daphne Bramham in two papers, neither of which was the "Vancouver Sun," for whom she writes. Seriously, I'm not kidding you. I didn't see one thing to make the answer be simple, I read the article twice and started to get a headache looking for it.


Maybe I'm just dense, which on occasion, I am, but I didn't see it, so perhaps one of you readers could go to the article, and see if the answer is indeed simple. I think she's pleading that it would hurt the children by impoverishing their fathers. I'm not sure.
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Winston Blackmore, has a BLOG

Hat tip to FeVaFotos. "Share the Light," is Winston Blackmore's blog. Winston's Home Page is, "The North Star," on which is contained his statement.
At present both have a page rank of "no data." I imagine, that will change. Nothing like a good persecution to call attention to someone, and something, no one cared about.

"Since I am not going to take your questions upon advice of legal counsel, and since you all know that whether I have liked it or not I have always tried to accommodate the media, I will try to anticipate your questions in this statement.

Almost nineteen years ago we were discovered by the media. We didn’t even know that we were lost. It has taken three AG’s, many special prosecutors, and millions and millions of tax payers dollars, almost nineteen years to arrive at the conclusion that Fundamentalist Mormons want to practice the fundamentals of their faith.

Canada has a law against polygamy. It was made in or around 1892 and was made specifically against the Mormons. Canada also has a Charter of Rights and Freedoms that guarantees every person the right to live their religion, and I guess now, every person except those of us who are Fundamentalist believing and practicing Mormons.

This is not about the police. They kindly waited until my children would be all at school before they came to arrest me. They certainly did not expect that school would be delayed for two hours because a foot of heavy snow had fallen in the night and all my school children were still home. They also did not know that my three children that want to be police officers when they grow up, a 16 year old girl, a 12 year old boy, and an eleven year old boy got to witness the process. My children hated the police all day long and were still hating them when I got home. I have met dozens of police officers over the years and made many good friends among them. I was treated very kindly by the arresting officers but can honestly say to them, you have some pr work to do with some of my family members, and perhaps since Canada has chosen to disregard our basic charter rights then you should at least work in some sensitivity when it comes to dealing with our children.

This is not about Polygamy. Tens of thousands of polygamists among many different cultures are hiding in plain sight all across Canada. They are known by their neighbors, policemen, legislators and media just as we are. I am sure that they are an active valued part of the economic structure of the communities in which they live just as we are. But they are not fundamentalist Mormons! To us this is about religious persecution. Persecution has always been about politics. Whatever else is involved with it, it is still about politics. It is therefore no surprise to us that this spectacular grandstanding event has happened in the face of an up and coming provincial election. I hope this government has calculated all the risks. Time will tell.

My family reaction was negative and yesterday was a hard day for them. There was no way that we could talk. They listened to the news, collectively fielded hundreds of phone calls and waited. My little children couldn’t do their school work, and were emotional and traumatized by the uncertainty of the event. My college children couldn’t focus. I didn’t know about it all day but a number of my dear family members waited outside to see me when I was released. We had a wonderful reunion and as I stood there in Cranbrook with a dozen grown up sons and daughters, all struggling in their own way to understand this religious persecution, not to mention the inevitable question of why a government presiding over this economy, would target them as employers, students, workers, taxpayers, all the while wasting enormous amounts of their hard earned dollars waging a political religious campaign. One quipped, “wouldn’t it be nice if this government focused their political and financial energy on creating jobs”? I had this huge feeling of gratitude that these fine men and woman are what my life is really all about. My family will be just fine.

Where do we go from here? I have to make an appearance on January 21. You will all be welcome to stay home from that event. I plan on doing what I have always done. I will get up and get my children up for school. We will live each day as we have done for the last nineteen years. We will teach our children the best we can, help them get a good education, and I will try and encourage my children that want to be police officers to do so, because Canada needs good, fair, unbiased officers, from coast to coast that will honestly deal with the diverse multicultural society that it has become, without discriminating against those visible or invisible minorities, whether racial, religious or simply cultural. I want my children to respect the First Nations People of our great country, to stand in honor with them and recognize according to our Book of Mormon teachings that they were preserved by the hand of God upon this land. I want my children to grow up, get a good education, go to work and do a good job for the business that hires them, and a better job for the people that they employ. Naturally, I want them to cherish my faith, but if they do not, they are growing up knowing that their dad will always till the day he dies be there to joy in their joys, sorrow in their sorrows, and encourage them to do right along the way. I am what I am, we are what we are. We are descended from a long line of Mormon believing people. My family did not make up our faith nor did we establish the fundamental teachings of Mormonism. Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. He has taught us, and I have taught my children that they should pray for their enemies as well as their friends. That is what we will continue to do.

I want to thank the hundreds, if not by now thousands who have called in their support. You guys are the best."

As always, I am not remotely LDS/FLDS/Mormon. I think their faiths are deceptions. Nevertheless, we all have a place in God's grand device, and more than that, we are all in his image. Justice is justice for us, and for all. For the stranger, and for the believer. I am grateful to Winston for getting this issue before the courts of Canada.

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15 FLDS kids remain.

Reading the article shows just how hard it will be to get the label "abuser" removed
, once it's been affixed to your name.


The Deseret News
- "28 individuals have asked for an administrative review of Texas Child Protective Services' findings, the agency said. It came after letters were sent out over the past several months, identifying individuals in 91 cases as perpetrators of child abuse or neglect."


91 cases of abuse and neglect, 28 people have objected to the label, BUT:

"The 439 children were returned to their families in June, after two Texas courts ruled the state acted improperly and the children were not at immediate risk of abuse. The phone call itself is believed to be a hoax. Only 15 children remain under court jurisdiction in what was once the nation's largest child custody case. The rest have been "nonsuited" after CPS found either no evidence of abuse and neglect, or said that parents had taken appropriate steps to protect their children from abuse."


Only 15 kids are still under court jurisdiction. Maybe some of the 91 cases of abuse, and 28 people objecting are cases of "aging out" but it would seem CPS returned some children that were labeled neglecters and abusers. Do the time but not the crime? A Scarlet letter but no Dimmesdale?
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Sunday, January 11, 2009

Bountiful locals weigh in, Price is no object according to the politicians

It's a better article than would have been written by the Eldorado Success
.

The Cranbrook Daily Townsman
- (Kootenay East MLA Bill Bennett) - "I can't say enough about Wally Oppal's doggedness on this file. He's really been responsive any time I've talked to him about Bountiful. He wanted evidence, obviously, to lay a charge, but couldn't lay a charge until they had it. I think he deserves a lot of credit here."


Dogged? What has Oler or Blackmore been charged with that they couldn't have been charged with a few days after they set foot in Bountiful? The charges are proof they couldn't find anything on the FLDS contingent in Canada, so they charged them with the only thing they could charge them with.

"(Audrey) Vance said she doesn't care who gets the credit as long as Blackmore was charged with polygamy instead of sexual assault or some other charge that would leave the polygamy law unchallenged.

'We've been skirting around this issue for a long time. Polygamy is against the law of Canada. So for me, I'm glad he was charged with that. As Canadians, I think it's time we made up our minds on the polygamy issue.' "


Audrey first seems to take a rational position, that the case should be tested, but then downshifts into utter nonsense.

"A member of Altering Destiny Through Education, a Creston-based group, which has fought for years for the right of Bountiful children to attend the public school system, Vance said her main concern is the children of Bountiful.

'For those of us that have learned so much the last six years, it isn't about consenting adults. It's about taking any young female that the 'prophet' feels should be married to an old man. So to me it's about children's rights in this country. That's the way I've always felt about it.' "


"Fought for the 'right' of Bountiful children to attend the public school system?" I'm glad she tells us it's how she feels about it. Who cares how she feels about it? Has it dawned on her than no one has been charged with abuse after all that investigation? Audrey would seem to be an idealist that thinks that the day will be won when the naturally abusive condition of polygyny is finally shown to be illegal. Good luck with that Audrey, I think monogamy as marriage, the only form of marriage, is going down in Canada.

"Bennett, meanwhile, said the Province is going to great lengths in the Bountiful prosecution to separate it from any possible taint of politics by putting independent prosecutor Terrence Robertson in charge of the case."


And they punt, to an "independent prosecutor" whose job it will be to expand the charges to anything and everything. At least Canada is leading with the correct charge as polygamy is in fact illegal. In this case if child abuse is found, as defined by law, they'll have reason to conduct the search and find the evidence. I would disagree with how they define child abuse, but Canada does have the right to make it's laws.

"Bennett agreed the case could be long and expensive, but said that's not the issue. The polygamy law must be tested, he said. 'This, I believe, is in the public interest. I agree with the special prosecutor and the attorney general on that.' "


Saddle up Cranbrook, politicians don't care how much of your money they spend, refer to Texas to see how much can be spent.
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Keeping Up with Rozita's "Flexible" court dates

On the Associated Press calender, Rozita is scheduled to appear tomorrow
.

Castle Rock, Colorado - "Probation revocation hearing for Rozita Swinton, a person of interest in hoax calls that triggered Texas polygamy raids, on her conviction in an unrelated false reporting case in Colorado."


Her attorney is twisting and turning and employing every trick and skill he has to keep her probation from being revoked. If she goes back to jail, she's not quite so "sequestered." I still wonder where the money is coming from. A 33 year old single woman who didn't have the wherewithal to buy a home is now effectively unemployed for 9 months, employing a relatively pricey piece of local legal talent (effectively), and getting extensive, perhaps even more expensive, mental health treatment and evaluation.

Let me tell you something based on my extensive experience as a lay person trying to sort out the "mental health system" mess. You do not stay in mental hospitals as long as Rozita has unless you're already in jail. Rozita is free on bond. Someone is paying a lot of money to keep her out of jail, off the street and in a mental health care facility. Yet no one has written story one on this throbbing sore thumb detail. Not word one.

It does appear that the Associated Press thinks THIS appearance is significant enough to put it on their calender.
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I was once in a town so cold......

How cold was it? The thermometer at their house is "buried"
at the extreme low end. The more sophisticated thermometer at the National Wildlife Refuge "broke" at -78. If you can get past the NPR idiots making bad Sarah Palin jokes in the audio clip, you will discover that they don't really know how cold it is.

It's so cold they don't know how cold it is. It could be -81 or lower. They say it's -78 because they don't have the equipment to measure it any lower. They. Really. Don't. Know. Tok, Alaska.
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Saturday, January 10, 2009

"Can anyone presume to tell where religious instruction ends and brainwashing begins?"

Hat tip to blogger "Sandy" at Introspection of a Plural Wife (at Heart). Iain Hunter writes the column that says it all
.

The Victoria Times-Colonist - "I've seen high Anglicans genuflecting, Quakers quaking and holy rollers rolling in their places of worship, and it has occurred to me that something has happened to their brains. But when they emerge, shriven or whatever, they seem perfectly normal again.

It's the same with people of other faiths I've seen on TV, lacerating their bodies, beheading live chickens and crawling with their faces in the mud. I presume they have families to look after and jobs to go to.

What the Bountiful women have done, though, is more permanent. They've hitched themselves, like sled dogs, to one man so that he can 'raise up seed' and qualify to get to the celestial kingdom.

If they, and their man, really believe this is their religious duty, what right has any non-believer to stop them from performing it? And how can anyone presume to tell where religious instruction ends and brainwashing begins?"


Also he points out this circular logic, unseen by its users;

"A lot of people seem to assume that these young, healthy women in a polygamous relationship have been brainwashed by those with religious authority over them. They believe no self-respecting sister would subject herself to this kind of arrangement of her own free will. Ergo, this must be stopped."


All Polygamy is backward and abusive and it is self evidently so. Therefore, any woman in one, has to be brainwashed, and must be rescued and deprogrammed. But at Short Creek years ago, and in Texas today, there are no Patricia Hearsts, no victims of Stockholm syndrome that "snap out of it." The still believe, what they believed before when they were being abused at close quarters and being brainwashed after 9 months of "choice," or maybe they just believe it.

"Attorney General Wally Oppal's determination to lay criminal charges against Winston Blackmore, with 26 wives at last count, and James Oler, with two, is something that a lot of people would have applauded about 60 years ago when it was supposedly first considered by the government of the day.

The opinion of most legal experts seems to be, though, that it's too late. The Charter of Rights' guarantee of religious freedom, they say, overrides the Criminal Code's section outlawing polygamy, the section the Crown has chosen to use to prosecute the two men."

Read it all.
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Willie Rousted Again

(Photo by Leah Hogsten/ The Salt Lake Tribune)

Either he's becoming genuinely amused or a little cranky
about it. His myth precedes him I guess. He does have that Darth Willie thing goin' on with all that black.




The Salt Lake Tribune - "(Willie) Jessop and two companions were stopped at noon and allowed to enter the country at about 4:15 p.m. MDT. During the wait, Canada Border Service Agency officials searched their laptops and a camera. They earlier had searched the men's Lincoln Navigator and their personal bags, Jessop said."


This happened down in Texas as well, he was pulled over going to the courthouse. It's called a shakedown.
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Friday, January 09, 2009

Bill Medvecky hits the Radar Screen

BLIP !


From Brooke Adam's blog, "The Plural Life."


"So what did we do to pass the time? The reporters chatted. Caseworkers and ad litems (there were 13 in the courtroom by my count) chatted. And read.

Copies of an article were being passed around among the state workers, and I got a glance at the headline: 'CPS dykes want to groom [girl’s name omitted].' Yikes, I thought, not exactly material you want CPS caseworkers reading dur(i)ng a hearing on whether you are capable of caring for your daughter."


Thanks to Bill, we know for certain now that CPS in Texas reads the blogs. Thanks guys and gals. Hope you love it. I'm assuming of course they cruise mine from time to time. Sorry 'bout your Cowboys. Maybe next year.

At any rate, as I tried to explain to an alleged attorney poster at Brooke's blog, Rule one, DO NOT DIGNIFY THE MINOR OPPOSITION BY RESPONDING TO THEM (or naming them). Rule two? Refer to rule one. Next thing you know Bill will be getting tickets to Oprah to be her guest. When all you really have is a "convict them in the press" strategy, it's not a good idea to create news for the other side. Yet that is what they have done.

Since I now must assume that DFPS in Texas reads the "Pro FLDS" or "FLDS Centric" or "FLDS Friendly blogs," I'd like to provide them with a handy little tool.

Whenever you're wondering, just click.

As of today (it may change tomorrow) the number one PRO FLDS or ANTI site is:

Truth Will Prevail.

The rest in order are:

The Modern Pharisee! (Me Me Me Me Me Me!)

Free the FLDS Children (Bill)

The Common Room

Contraries

Sore Toes and a Bleeding Heart

Child Brides (Flora's site?)

Texas Polygamy

All of these are ranked by "Alexa Rankings" in the United States. The overall number at the bottom of the page, not the top. If your blog or site didn't have such a number, it didn't make the list. Comment if you think I missed one, and I'll insert it in the appropriate place right away. For a limited time. I assume that rankings will change over the next few days or weeks, Bill might outshine Google if he doesn't watch it.

I left out blogs like "Grits for Breakfast" which is a high ranking and great blog, but Scott doesn't blog consistantly on the FLDS so his fame is largely due to other pursuits. I can't break out Brooke's blog from Salt Lake Tribune statistics, but I would assume that if I could, it would outrank us all. Maybe all of us combined. Since I believe the facts are on the FLDS side, Brooke, though nominally neutral, would appear to be "Pro" FLDS most of the time.

What's notable is that they are almost all PRO or FLDS leaning blogs. 7 months ago, "Texas Polygamy," a nominally neutral (but really anti) spot was on top. Child Brides has never drawn very much traffic, and I now rate just below what must pass for the official FLDS mouthpiece, "Truth Will Prevail."

This shows you what people believe, where the news is, whose anaylsis they trust and where sympathies lie. Beyond inflaming the ill informed, the Anti FLDS side hasn't got much. As soon as the truth breaks through, and dawns on most of the nation, if it ever does, Texas is toast, and they've started giving us publicity. Hopefully, they'll try to investigate or arrest someone.
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Thursday, January 08, 2009

Does Philip Berg have standing now?

Congress has certified the results of the votes of the Electoral College and recognized that Barack Hussein Obama is to be the next President of the United States, assuming George Bush doesn't die on us
in the next two weeks.

As I observed earlier today, the Supreme Court of the United States may in fact have acted properly when they denied his standing to question the qualification of Mr. Obama to be President. What about now? A President is (customarily) sworn in by the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court. Can a writ of mandamus now essentially be asked of that Court, demanding that they perform their constitutional duty and examine the qualifications of the man about to be our President?

Wikipedia - "From 1789 through 2005, the swearing-in has been administered by 14 Chief Justices, one Associate Justice, three federal judges, two New York state judges, and one notary public. Though anyone legally authorized to administer an oath may swear in a President, to date the only person to do so who was not a judge was John C. Coolidge, Calvin Coolidge's father, a notary whose home the then-Vice President was visiting in 1923 when he learned of the death of President Warren G. Harding."


I guess the order would be to enjoin anyone from administering the oath of office, as a notary public can do the job. Now, who can ask for that court order? Who would have standing at this point? Someone would have to. All we would be asking, is that Barack Hussein Obama present his original birth certificate or a certified copy from Hawaii, to say he is a natural born citizen of the United States.
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It's the BOOK DEALS STUPID.

Two books are written referencing Rozita Swinton before the Raid
. I'm not even sure if there was a YFZ when Vanity Publishing Whore Mary Catharine Nelson first put pen to paper on her forgettable tomes that she rushed right out and shamelessly hawked the moment Rozita's name hit the news. She's now all quiet about it, I suspect hoping to benefit from selling Rozita's story, once it's all over. Who do you think (speculation) is paying Rozita's considerable legal bills and mental health treatment bills?

Flora has made a cottage industry out of being an Anti FLDS activist. I guess you can't pole dance your way to stardom. God help her father if her allegations of about incestuous rape turn out to be true. It would really explain a lot, but women never lie about rape. Do they? Flora's book is out this week. I won't link to it. I will tell you that her DVD is "no longer availabe." Chasing the FLDS is Flora's fan dance since she can't sell peaks anymore.

Vancouver Sun Reporter Daphne Bramham has her book go to paperback this week. Accompanying Wag the Dog media event? Two Bountiful FLDS men are arrested for Polygamy. No doubt salacious charges were pursued by Canadian Law Enforcement. There weren't any. So they charged them with Polygamy to show they were "doing something."

Elissa Wall is persuaded by Flora that she is a victim, she has a book. It was published, oh my, to coincide with the YFZ raid. Her relatives advise David Doran. Flora Jessop is said to advise David Doran.

Follow the money. Elissa is trying to feed off the UEP trust, which may have nothing left in it after Bruce Wissan is done. Everyone is lining up for a book deal or a miniseries or a movie or all three. Government is being manipulated by the shameless publicity of the press. You don't get re-elected by seeming to do nothing about law breakers, so they go arrest, they go raid, they put people in jail, they interrogate, they pander. But they hate it. They'd rather polygamy be legal so they could pursue something else and not get hit up with questions about polygynists "abuse" during their elections, but they can't get elected, saying that.

I will warn the anti FLDS foes again, if you don't get results, then eventually Law Enforcement will turn on you. They don't enjoy being made fools of, they don't wish to be the football. The smiling young lady from Niger, takes off on the Tiger, but when she came back from the ride, the lady was inside, and a smile, was on the face of the Tiger.

Ask yourselves, those of you who hate the FLDS, will you survive having all your worldly goods turned out on the lawn and being sifted through? Will there be a seed of a marijuana plant, maybe a little "crank" in your houses? Will there be evidence of Tax Evasion? Are you lesbians or bisexuals? Will there be evidence of "molestation?" Violence? Abuse? There are oh so many laws that will be selectively applied by an angry Attorney General or Governor who doesn't like being used.

Several years ago I got an angry obscene call in the middle of the night from an angry man who took issue with me. He eventually persuaded the police to come visit me, who I voluntarily allowed into my home. Spooky similarity there, hmmmmmmm? These police were apologetic and embarrassed and had consented to see me just to shut up the hysterical complainer, from out of state.

Angry myself, I pursued the issue for a while and was eventually told by a Gallatin county detective that essentially, he could find a law (he actually named one) that he could use against me, if I didn't stop complaining. I was right. I received the obscene phone call but all that Donut munching moron was interested in was making the issue go away. He wasn't interested in interstate prosecution of a misdemeanor beef. Also, eerily similar to the present issue.

Eventually, when things continue to not pan out, when "wolf" has been cried enough, the Donut Muncher will be tired, of you. Perhaps he's not such a moron after all, and he will no longer be your plaything, and then, watch out.

In the meantime, if you want to know what's really going on at YFZ, and with the FLDS, follow the money, or at least, who's trying to or succeeding in making money off the event.

Also, remember something. My website is bigger than Flora's, has been for a while now. Does anybody really care what the FLDS are doing unless the "stuff" hits the fan? Why is she called about anything when her DVD's don't sell and are discontinued and her website gets no hits is she called about anything? Why is she interviewed? She's a STRIPPER for goodness sake. Call Donald Richter. Heck, call me. More people go looking for our sites than for hers when they want to know what's happening. Call Bill Medvecky. But Flora? No one cares but she keeps getting face time as the Paris Hilton of the polygamy controversy. If she stopped being on TV, no one would pay attention. They don't really pay attention now.

If you legalize polygamy, heck, I'll go away. With nothing. Fine by me.
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Congress to certify Electoral College results at 1 pm

This article at Wikipedia is instructive reading. If you read and understand, you will see how it provides for state, not Federal control of elections. It also provides for an inevitable process in which a President WILL BE ELECTED, either by some reflection of popular candidate or legislative process. The idea is that we get President chosen and challenges to that election process not deter the United States from finding a Chief Executive. The founders were geniuses
. You do NOT want a popular vote election. You want this. If you have any doubts, you have only to refer to Minnesota. A popular election of President might well result in civil war some day.

It makes it all the more interesting that SCOTUS will hear arguments tomorrow, not earlier, on the Obama Birth Certificate issue. There's really no point in doing it earlier. President of the Senate Dick Cheney could ask for the proof, from Obama, of his eligibility to be President of the United States. If he can't prove it, there's no need for SCOTUS to intervene. Congress would then have to pick a candidate from the top three vote getters (electoral college) for President. We would then have a President. Duly and legally elected, no need for court intervention.

Hence, they meet tomorrow, but if John McCain gets elected by Congress as one of the Top Three Electoral Vote "getters" as President, because Obama cannot show ID, then they have nothing to do tomorrow. I suspect no one plans to ask for ID. Maybe that's because they've seen it, perhaps that's because they don't wish to do their jobs.

This in my humble estimation explains why Philip Berg had no standing. Congress must do it's business first. He might have standing if they don't ask for Obamessiah's ID, and certify his election. Maybe SCOTUS sees this entirely as the province of the Legislature, which would be, after a fashion, a good thing, and perhaps a precedent of sorts that could be cited when there are court attempts to overturn elections.
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