Showing posts with label Anti FLDS Child Abuse. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Anti FLDS Child Abuse. Show all posts

Thursday, January 30, 2014

Joe the Plumber picks the wrong pic

Normally, I would be on Joe's side. I truly am thankful for his revealing what Obama was, by getting him to declare we should "spread the wealth around." This, however, is wrong:

Edson Jessop touches his traumatized son.


FLDS Members being taken away in a local "Christian" Church Bus












Joe is "borrowing" and image of children abducted by Texas and placed in foster care to bolster his argument that children who are home schooled by Christian foster parents, should be removed from their custody.

I'm sorry Joe, but these kids were abducted with the assistance of Christians, out of their homes and placed in foster care. The image you are using is one taken after Edson and Zavenda (their parents) logged 11,000 driving miles to get them back. This drips with irony, because Christians were complicit in taking the FLDS children, and it's happening to Christian foster parents in Texas.
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Wednesday, June 17, 2009

How the raid happened, now proven.

There was a written plan, long before the raid, that was followed. Yes, it was a conspiracy.
"I have written several papers explaining the causes and effects of the Raid on the Church Community where children from a common religion were seized by the state for alleged child abuse. We now know that the State of Vermont fell in line with a written plan devised by (a) renowned anti-cultist. Critical to (the) thesis is that cults are a social menace and deserve to be destroyed and his plan provides the steps just how to do it. With the groundwork laid by anti-cult operatives, the linchpin of the whole plan was to get the authority of the state behind it in order to be able to actually execute the raid. The plan, devised coordination between state agencies, law enforcement and the media who coordinated to execute a 'grossly unlawful scheme' with the explicit purpose of 'destroying the group' and serving as a prototype for use with other minority religious groups in the future."
So is this a claim of a "foil hat" wearing wacko like me, as some claim?

It is the opening paragraph of a comparison paper, between the "Island Pond" raid in Vermont in 1984 (where I now reside) and the YFZ raid, a little over a year ago. I've deleted a few words from the paragraph so as to hide the giveaways that it is largely a claim about the Island Pond raid. When it is said that those who support the idea of a Government "Conspiracy" are loons, it would be good for those doing that pointing to remember, that Island Pond was eventually discovered to be just that. An organized, planned, written conspiracy. The author of the paper is Jean Swankto Wiseman of Chattanooga TN and she goes on:
"Even the basic requirements of the law, the Constitution and state procedures are not followed and there is no doubt that the legitimacy of the states' actions cannot be upheld. Whether or not the state action is legal and sustained, the net effect of demonizing the group and creating 'moral panic' gets accomplished. The anti-cult motive to dissolve and diminish non-mainstream religions, perceived as a threat to mainstream religions, is nevertheless satisfied."
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"In both cases the obvious reality was that these two raids were massive and had been planned for months, well before any presenting emergency. Basically the claimed emergencies were a ruse (a clever trick or plot used to deceive others) for a long-anticipated action to search for evidence inside these communities."
And:
"When social workers have no legal grounds for entry and cannot meet the necessary standard, pressure, direct or indirect, can be applied to judges to issue a warrant anyway in the hopes of finding the necessary or desired evidence once inside. Such an approach is illegal. Seizing people or evidence on this basis is called 'investigative detention' and it is unlawful in this country under the 4th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, as well as the state constitutions of Vermont and Texas."
And:
"Both cases were premised upon the argument that a particular religious belief is bad for children, but it is a right of parents, protected by the Constitution, to make that call."
There are 84 footnotes, and I'm not even one of them. The "Plan" to destroy the group in Island Park, is also included and compared to the raids on Waco and YFZ. There is also this fascinating little tidbit:
"Interestingly enough, the evidence shows that Flora Jessop is linked to some of the very same anti-cult organizations that proved unreliable in the Island Pond case."
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Monday, February 09, 2009

New "ANTI" blog DOWN. Privacy WINS out.

Apparently, drawing attention to the questionable ANTI FLDS site http://flds.wordpress.com/ AKA "FLDS CULT" was the right thing to do. All the right people complained and it's gone.
I will not take the position that it was "Kiddie Porn" or pornographic in any way. It was, to me, a privacy issue and those behind the site apparently got told. Bravo. I do not believe some of the practices of the FLDS regarding marital ages to be IMMORAL. This is a delicate issue. For that reason I cannot regard the material as having been pornographic. It was however, RUDE. It showed no concern for the privacy of victims, for they are victims indeed. In my view though, they are victims of having their lives disrupted and what was a quite life, thrown onto the world stage.

Those that object to what the FLDS have done, and see their practice as the sexual abuse ARE guilty though, of showing Kiddie Porn. If what the FLDS did was wrong, or what they allege the FLDS did was wrong, then showing the pictures of child brides was in fact, pornography. The question now? Who was behind the site? Will there be arrests? Was what they did illegal or just against Wordpress policy?
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