Several FLDS questions answered in this article.

The Salt Lake Tribune;

"One activist who has campaigned for government officials to crack down on underage marriages in the sect hailed Tuesday's indictments.

'I think it's a great start,' said Flora Jessop, a child victim advocate and ex-member of the sect. 'I'm proud of Texas for following through on the abuse they found.'"

Well DER, Flora is going to talk a good game, like abuse was found. What was found was a set of circumstances that INDICATE the POSSIBILITY of abuse, not abuse itself. But on with the show, Flora is always truthful on part these next several points;

"Jessop said she hopes the state also holds parents and other adults who were aware of the abuses accountable for sexual assaults on the community's children.

'That's the only way to send a strong message it has got to stop,' Jessop said. 'This has nothing to do with polygamy. It has to do with systemic rape, molestation and abuse of these children.'"

Right, it has NOTHING to do with polygamy. And until proven, since there are a set of circumstances that suggest, but do not prove rape abuse and molestation have occurred, it could hardly be called systemic. What Flora is always right about is that this is not about polygamy. Then she goes off the deep end and starts promoting her agenda. Even if EVERYTHING Flora says about her personal experience is true, it does not prove present day ongoing systemic rape, molestation and abuse. If anything the length of time before and the small number of indictments, tend to prove the opposite. I continue to point out that in comparing YFZ to society at large, YFZ was squeaky clean.

"Willie Jessop, an FLDS spokesman, said late Tuesday that the sect will address the allegations 'head on.'

'As soon as we know who they are looking for we will make contact with the sheriff's office and make arrangements for those people to appear on the charges,' he said."

So far the FLDS have not balked a bit at confronting charges so I'm confident Willie means this. It is also hard for the innocent to respond to sealed indictments, since they are innocent, and short of EVERYONE turning themselves in, no one knows who should turn who in. By saying that FLDS members will APPEAR on the charges, Willie makes a specific promise, that the five indicted persons subject to the warrants will show up in Texas and submit to arrest. That's quite a promise. Personally I'd have fled the jurisdiction by now with no plans of coming back. I have no trust for Texas Justice.

"Jessop was at the courthouse all day after being handed a subpoena Tuesday morning after a traffic stop. He was accompanied by Las Vegas attorney Richard Wright, who has assisted in Jeffs' defense, and several Texas attorneys. Jessop was not called before the jury, however."

Willies was rousted. The subpoena and traffic stop was intimidation and physical control of Willie. Funny how those who have no moral compass accuse others of that which they engage in themselves.

"Six FLDS women did appear before the panel, which met in the Memorial Building adjacent to the Schleicher County Courthouse.

During the afternoon proceedings, 51st District Judge Barbara Walther was in the courthouse as at least four of the women were questioned again."

Yes, one of them was Teresa Jeffs, contrary to how I interpreted the facts yesterday;

"Jeffs' 16-year-old daughter, whose marriage at age 15 to a much older man was revealed in court documents filed last week (testified.)"

I'll have to research who the "dismissed" witness was in between the June and July hearing. They have no leverage over Teresa since she has no child, though Natalie Malonis alleges that she does. I'm guessing her and the other minor, Veda Keate were not summoned back to the Grand Jury later in the day.
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The Plot Thickens, Barbara Walther summoned to Eldorado Grand Jury

Speculation at this point would be wild. I'd hit the mark only by chance. News will probably move faster than my speculations at this point. The Salt Lake Tribune.

"Grand jury proceedings have resumed this afternoon in Schleicher County Courthouse, and tension has grown as controversial 51st District Judge Barbara Walther has arrived, apparently summoned to the hearing for reasons yet unknown."

Putting Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott and her in the same room. Something tells me all is not well with the CPS plan, but nothing can really be determined at this point, other than the story isn't going the way Texas wants it too. The day is yet young. More →

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Patting my own back, THE PHARISEE NAILS IT, Natalie Malonis CONFESSES.

On THURSDAY I outlined a strategy in which Texas would use the Testimony of various FLDS moms to GET THE KIDS;

"I wouldn't put it past them. The prosecution GRANTS immunity to the FLDS women, who either then TESTIFY or are held in contempt. All the children then whose fathers did not show up to submit DNA evidence and have had their parental rights terminated are out of the picture.

Mom is now in JAIL. CPS comes to get the kids. They could get most of the kids back that way."

Thursday, PLUS THIRTY MINUTES, Natalie Malonis proposes almost EXACTLY the same strategy. The EMAIL that Brooke Adams got came to her at 12:30am Friday Morning. I was so concentrated on one part of the answers, that I missed ENTIRELY the thrust of another part of Natalie's answer.

"Then suppose the girl is subpoenaed to testify about those circumstances, and if she lies to protect her husband it will be viewed as an inability to protect her children. It will be seen as a preference to protect her adult husband over her defenseless children. Suppose also that her husband is nowhere to be seen and although there is DNA and a baby that prove what happened, the alleged perpetrator still will not come forward to take any responsibility.

At the same time, the alleged perpetrator and various other trusted and powerful members of the community keep reinforcing the idea that the girl is a traitor to her community and her faith if she tells the truth. The 14 year old girl has internalized the teaching that to betray the church means being shunned and ostracized. She feels as if her very survival is on the line, so she refuses to testify for fear of the consequences.

She knows that she may be taken into detention and she may lose custody of her children if she does not testify truthfully, and she ignores the small voice in her head that tells her that if her husband would come forward and tell what happened, she and her children would not be in this position. Not a word from her husband. She does not even know where he is, and she knows it is not her place to ask or question."

Is this not in fact that very strategy? Isn't Natalie threatening EXACTLY that? The state will used YOUR TESTIMONY to show you an unfit mother? Why AIR such stuff? The answer is only that Natalie is acting in CONCERT with the state of Texas to threaten the mothers of the FLDS. "Don't testify and you will LOSE your children." The FLDS Mom's and Teresa Jeffs (almost certainly NOT a mom) apparently took the 5th. Let's review what my proposed strategy was again. My clarifying comment on that post from Thursday.

"Theory: Texas is playing rock and hard place.

It has been floated that those fathers that will not come forth will have their parental rights 'terminated.' I have always wondered why the state of Texas viewed that as a threat.

With Fathers TERMINATED, mom is offered IMMUNITY from what ever the crime they are pleading the 5th for. The object of taking the 5th is because they don't wish to incriminate themselves. The purpose of taking the 5th is not to testify at all. With prosecution threats removed from Moms, they are COMPELLED to testify.

Moms still of course DO NOT want to testify because they may endanger friends or husbands. They now MUST do so or face contempt.

Mom Goes to JAIL for Contempt, stays indefinitely. State takes "abandoned" children.

Variations. Children cannot leave the state. Dads come to be with, their parental rights have not been terminated. Dads are arrested and DNA tested. Children are deemed again to be in unsafe environment for whatever reason. Children taken. State gets dads DNA."

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Natalie Malonis claims all her public stories about Teresa, are not about Teresa.

Natalie Malonis, who is apparently the poster at Brooke Adams blog has now said her stories to Brooke in answer to her questions are "hypothetical." I rather expected this. She's trying to use a claim of speculation for insulation against telling the contents of her privileged communications with her client. It goes like this, "I only told a story, the story is like yours, the story is not yours."

If she makes it sufficiently wrong, or unlike Teresa's story, she can then go on to claim she's broken no confidence. But then, why is she telling the story? Her star client is Teresa Jeffs. Teresa Jeffs is sure the story is about her, and Teresa Jeffs doesn't appreciate the story being told. The other factor that makes the story to be a substantial representation of Teresa by her attorney is the fact that Natalie has said that if Teresa KEEPS talking about their communications, she (Natalie) will be forced to testify by Barbara Walthers since Teresa will have broken the attorney client privilege herself.

So Natalie is LYING. Pure and simple. About what we cannot be sure but she's lying. I have posted the following to Natalie (assuming it IS her) at the Plural life.

"Actually Malonis, that's a 'NON DENIAL' denial. You said the 'hypothetical is not about Teresa' that the 'hypothetical does not match her circumstances.'

This only means you've woven a speculation or two about your client into the narrative that you know doesn't match her circumstance, thus making the hypothetical, in totality, NOT about Teresa.

Teresa though has written PUBLIC letters to you asking you to SHUT UP. This means you are identifying major portions of the story as matching up to her. Teresa's problem is that she does not agree with that narrative and is in fact calling you a liar.

Yet you CANNOT shut up about it. Why? Why would you go spin yarns in front of the public that match in large part, or seemingly large part, the life story of your client? Why would you wish the PUBLIC to believe that certain aspects of that story are Teresa's story?

How about THIS counselor? You tell us what parts DON'T match. That will go a long way to solving Teresa's problem."

By the way, I went back and counted, in the HYPOTHETICAL that us MORONS are supposed to know is NOT about Teresa, Natalie Malonis uses Teresa's name FIVE TIMES and her mother's name once. More →

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Natalie Malonis answers Brooke Adams' questions. Baits Teresa Jeffs. The Pharisee asks HIS questions, gives his answers.

In response to this question: "That Annette will be charged with failure to protect her daughter and be jailed?," Natalie had the following to say. I will take portions of her lengthy answer.

"Can we all assume that it is not in a teenage girl's interest to be married at 14 or 15 to a stranger who is more than twice her age?"

No. Is Natalie saying a 17 year old does not act in her best interest to marry a 35 year old? An 18 year old does not act in her best interest to marry a 37 year old?

"It is illegal after all."

No, it's not. It's illegal for a teenager to be married to a person twice their age when that person is already married (legally) to another. An example. A legally unmarried 50 year old man goes to Mexico and impregnates a 13 year old girl there, also from this country. He returns to his home in North Carolina, and marries the girl. That's LEGAL. It is another discussion entirely as to whether it's morally right or wrong. Law is not morality. The acts I described are legal and will accomplish the marriage legally.

"If Willie were influencing young women to keep quiet so that the church can get away with criminal acts against teenage girls, can we not all agree that Willie's influence is not in the girls' interests?"

Fallacy of complex question. This is; "has Willie stopped beating his wife?" It's almost three months now since the raid, there are no indictments or charges or arrests or crimes found.

"Who has more motivation to improperly influence Teresa, Willie Jessop or me? Willie is protecting the Church, not protecting Teresa."

If theirs is the true faith, aren't these goals 100% compatible? Who decides then Natalie, what true faith is? YOU?

"If he were truly interested in protecting Teresa (and Annette for that matter) don't you suppose he would counsel Teresa to testify truthfully rather than subject her to this enormous strain?"

He HASN'T done that counselor? Are you not divulging the content of your discussions with Teresa? Are you not breaking NOW the attorney client privilege? If this is a question YOU ask, you answer other questions you should not.

"Don't you think he would encourage the alleged perpetrator to come forward and speak to authorities so that the women and children do not have to bear the entire burden?"

Alleged perpetrator? OF WHAT? Who would come forward? You ask them to prove the NEGATIVE if in fact there is no Crime. WHAT CRIME Natalie? ARREST SOMEONE! YOU are an OFFICER OF THE COURT!

"Just suppose that the reports of underage marriages and child-bearing are true, and I'm not speaking about Teresa here, but speaking generally."

Let's suppose the reports of their being pictures of Natalie Malonis having sex with a barnyard animal are true.....Oh wait, there are no such reports. Ok, Rumor time, let's suppose Natalie Malonis (fill in the blank). Let's suppose Barbara Walthers is embezzeling. Let's suppose she is in collusion with Mary Catharine Nelson to send Rozita Swinton to make false reports about the FLDS. There is in fact far more basis for supposing THAT, than the existance of "underage marriages" and "child abuse" at YFZ.

"Suppose a girl is taught her entire life that plural marriage is the only path to salvation, that the word of the prophet is the word of God, and perfect obedience to men is the way to glorify Heavenly Father."

What if it is? I'm a HYPER Calvinist Natalie. That means I believe there are those destined to hell by the planning of God from before the foundations of time, from before they were created, from before they had a chance to ACT. Is what I believe horrid? It doesn't matter, it's what I believe and it is the right of parents to teach children and instruct them in religious belief. Too bad. Every religion has it's spooky side to those on the outside.

"... and suppose the prophet tells that girl at age 13 that she is to be married that night to a stranger who is close to her father's age, and Heavenly Father is honored by the sealing."

Have we found any of these acts at YFZ?

"Suppose the girl, having never had a discussion about sexual relations, becomes pregnant and has a child when she is 14 years old. That 14 year old girl would tell you she chose to marry and she chose to enter a sexual relationship and bear children. That 14 year old girl would tell you that she is happy and doing what she wants to do. She would tell you that she has never been abused and she has never been forced to do anything."

Yah, yah, and suppose that I am the Queen of England. Monkeys flew out of my butt. Suppose I was on the moon. Was a member of the Beatles. That I caught the biggest fish.

"Then suppose the girl is subpoenaed to testify about those circumstances, and if she lies to protect her husband it will be viewed as an inability to protect her children. It will be seen as a preference to protect her adult husband over her defenseless children. Suppose also that her husband is nowhere to be seen and although there is DNA and a baby that prove what happened, the alleged perpetrator still will not come forward to take any responsibility."

That's a lot of "ifs" there sister. Again you propose the contents of your priveleged discussions with Teresa, and in so doing you break the confidence or just flat out LIE about her. In any case you impugn her character.

"At the same time, the alleged perpetrator and various other trusted and powerful members of the community keep reinforcing the idea that the girl is a traitor to her community and her faith if she tells the truth. The 14 year old girl has internalized the teaching that to betray the church means being shunned and ostracized. She feels as if her very survival is on the line, so she refuses to testify for fear of the consequences."

Again, that's either divulging the contents of your discussions with Teresa, and privileged, or a series of lies. You are impugning her character in any case.

"She knows that she may be taken into detention and she may lose custody of her children if she does not testify truthfully, and she ignores the small voice in her head that tells her that if her husband would come forward and tell what happened, she and her children would not be in this position. Not a word from her husband. She does not even know where he is, and she knows it is not her place to ask or question."

Wow, I hope I never have such an attorney. Like I said, either she's lying, or telling the truth. Either way she's telling you what she wants you to believe transpired in conversations between her and Teresa Jeffs. Either way it's NONE of our business. What next? Does she offer NUDE PHOTOS of Teresa to Playboy? She might as well do so. Even if there are no such photos EVERYONE WOULD BELIEVE that there were after the offer. Just as in this case where anyone who now reads her reply believes that Teresa Jeffs has lost her virginity, been pawed over by an older man, has a child and has been abandoned by that man.

Or it could be that Teresa Jeffs is a virgin and is furious for precisely the reasons that Teresa has outlined in her letters. In any case it is no more my business than naked photos of Teresa, or Natalie or Barbara Walthers. Whether those photos exist, or not. You cannot speculate the existence of such photos as a basis for going to look for them. You have to have evidence.

Let me be clear, I believe Teresa, not Natalie. There is no child. Teresa is a virgin. She is a chaste maiden in her father's house. Natalie feels free to say what she wants and the threat to Teresa is, "IF you REPLY to me publicly, I WILL DIVULGE our PRIVELEGED CONVERSATIONS." Personally I think Natalie is BAITING Teresa. There is something Natalie WANTS to tell Barbara, or has already told Barbara that neither of them can act on. It is PROBABLY a "Spiritual Marriage" to someone. We don't know though. That hardly means that Teresa has consummated that relationship. Whatever it is, Natalie thinks it is material to Barbara's ongoing crusade and wants to tell. The more public the exchange, the more they edge closer to Natalie's threat that Barbara will ask her to testify, and that Natalie will testify to what has been said between her and Teresa. More →

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Malonis threatens to blab? Texas levers Teresa Jeffs

Most of us know of course that Natalie Malonis refuses to step aside as Teresa Jeffs attorney. This may move may let Barbara Walthers see privileged Attorney-Client communications. I'll let Natalie explain;

The Deseret News - "Malonis said it was her obligation to refuse to testify.

'The client has to be able to communicate with an attorney and know that those communications are kept confidential,' she said.

She did worry that by making her e-mails public, Jeffs may be waiving attorney-client privilege.

'That's what I'm afraid of,' she said. 'If that keeps happening, at some point the judge will compel me to testify.'"

Natalie thus says to Teresa; "Shut UP, or I'll testify" and perpetuates the situation where Natalie operates in collusion with the State to make it appear that Teresa is "seeking" state protection when she is not.

If Teresa fights Natalie, eventually she will testify and probably what she will testify to is that Teresa is "spiritually married" to someone, probably Raymond Jessop. This line may have in fact already been crossed in Barbara Walters mind and Barbara was just waiting for more evidence to bolster her case that Teresa is talking, thus so can Natalie. Part of what happened in the Grand Jury proceeding seems to have been the effort to document Teresa Jeffs supposed "spiritual marriage" to Raymond. This would then become the salacious detail that would be trumpeted in the press, probably along with the now infamous "kissing" pictures of Warren. The headline would be "Convicted Cult Leader/Rapist Jeffs forces sex on his own daughter with Older Man." They could then propose he is an accomplice to the rape of his own daughter.

Texas has been pretty good at the "rock and hard place" strategy. Sign this service plan or don't see your children. Get on this bus or don't see your children. Go to this battered woman's shelter or don't see your children. I propose they are manuevering now for at least two other rock and hard place choices. That being "testify or go to jail" to the FLDS women who took the 5th Wednesday and then the consequence is not just jail but probably removal of their children while they are there. The other is to Teresa Jeffs which is "serve as our poster child for abused girl needing state protection" OR "Help us build the case that your father is an accomplice to your own rape."

I don't think Teresa has lost her virtue. It's entirely possible that she is "Spiritually Married" to Raymond Jessop. If the former is true, the latter is hardly anyone's business. Anyone can probably get "enagaged" at 50 to a girl of 12 as long as they wait 6 years to touch their prospective bride. As long as Teresa is a virgin, which it would appear from certain statements that she is, there is no basis for presuming she has been molested by the state's definition. Documenting however that she WAS "spiritually married" would start the public distress and hand wringing of the CPS and the restart of their "child abuse" strategy that would almost require a live "on air" gynecological exam with expert commentary. That would be the only way Teresa could prove Texas wrong.

One of the reasons I air these speculations is to prevent their uses as strategies. Texas in the person of Barbara Walthers has been very good at forcing choices, manuevering pieces on the playing board so as to give FLDS members two choices that serve the state, one good, the other better from the perspective of Texas. If the FLDS know what might be coming and if we do, they might avoid it.

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The Grand Jury Final Report for June? No Indictments?

With this confusing story it seems that the Grand Jury is done for the month, and won't meet again for another month. There were no indictments. My UNDERSTANDING is that the Grand Jury has to be empaneled to issue the indictments, and if they're done, and there are none, no one knows even now who to indict and for what. That is frankly amazing. Alan Futrell seems as confused about it as I am.

The San Angelo Standard-Times - ELDORADO - "With today's meeting of the Schleicher County grand jury at an end, no indictments have been issued and the panel has agreed to meet again July 22.

Alan Fatrell (sic?), the criminal defense attorney for the 16-year-old daughter of Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints leader Warren Jeffs, told reporters earlier in the afternoon that the grand jury would call one more witness before recessing until July 22. However, he said he did not know whether the continuation means the panel will not issue any indictments until that date."

Unless a Grand Jury can have a PHONE conference and issue indictments this turned out to be one big wet firecracker. That in and of itself should be a major news story across the country in the MSM. They can't even get a Grand Jury in their own home town to tell them what they think might have happened, when they are SPOON FEEDING them the "Evidence." My only guess is they were trying to gather evidence against Warren Jeffs, otherwise unless and indictment comes out, Walthers looks like a complete moron and hack.

UPDATE: It's probably fair to say we don't like each other much but I have no reason to think that "Texas Blues Man" over at "Coram Non Judice" is SUBSTANTIALLY wrong about this one, so I'll pass his answer along to you about Grand Juries in Texas;

"Hugh, the GJ is still technically in session, and they serve for the term of the court. In this case, the term ends on September 30th, so a quorum (9 jurors) can meet at any time between now and then.

If they decide to indict, the DA will prepare the indictment and the foreman will sign it.

Conceivably, the GJ could have indicted some today, and it is merely waiting for the copy for the foreman to sign, but more likely it will be ready for signature in July.

They can meet at any time until the end of the term, but usually will meet once a month or so - more often if needed.

Also, the term of the GJ can be extended for 90 days if needed.

Finally, if the indictments were sealed, they could already be issued and they are just waiting to serve them."

There were no indictments today, signed or unsigned by the foreman. That is unless news reports are wrong and about such technical details they usually are not in this case. I have no reason to suspect that the San Angelo Standard-Times got it wrong. This does mean that Barbara can call a quorum of the GJ at any time including tomorrow and get an indictment issued. The last time the GJ met they handed down 18 sealed indictments right away but the indictments were said to have nothing to do with the YFZ case so I doubt that there are any sealed indictments.

IMHO the failure to hand down any indictments in this case indicates it's extreme weakness. It would sound like the DA and the Judge were trolling today, trying to find something on which to build a case.

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Teresa Jeffs wins something after all. Alan Futrell is her REAL attorney.

Two things seem to have come out of the Grand Jury. One is that I may have been to hasty to say that Malonis and Walther won. They engaged in the face saving move of declaring that Malonis was still Teresa Jeffs attorney, but Malonis clearly was not. Another is that they have not been quick to issue indictments, though I am certain some will come. As loose as Grand Jury proceedings are that's almost a certainty. The Grand Jury knows the prosecution wants indictments, and is inclined to give them out. It is significant that the next meeting will be July 22nd. We may get to hear from Rozita Swinton at least before the next Grand Jury meeting unless there is another convienient "delay." I doubt that Allen Steed will have his next court date before then, as his next date is more variable.

The San Angelo Standard-Times - ELDORADO - "With today's meeting of the Schleicher County grand jury nearing an end, no indictments have yet been issued and the panel has agreed to meet again July 22, one attorney said.

Alan Fatrell (sic?), the criminal defense attorney for the 16-year-old daughter of Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints leader Warren Jeffs, told reporters this afternoon that the grand jury would call one more witness before recessing until July 22. However, he said he did not know whether the continuation means the panel will not issue any indictments until that date."

Alan is apparently for all intents and purposes Teresa's attorney. It may be that officially Natalie Malonis is, but it's apparently not working that way.

"Malonis and the girl spent practically no time together, the attorney usually staying inside the courthouse or on the steps, with her client several yards away with other sect members and their attorneys."

So not really her attorney after all.

The Deseret News has this interesting quote;

"San Angelo attorney Brad Haralson represents several mothers.

'I can't say a thing,' he told reporters as he walked to his car. 'I don't know if there's really a schedule. They're just doing it. No agenda was sent out to anybody.'"

This suggests the Grand Jury proceedings are a show on a schedule, not a proceeding with a legal goal of finding the truth. "We're just going to do this" would seem to be the operative phrase, the same sort of train wreck justice that applied to the custody hearings, and "service plans" also presided over by Walthers. I can't hold it back any longer, Barbara Walthers is a political hack. She may be good at manuevering people that way, but she's not a legal mind or a good judge. She's a politician.

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Natalie Malonis drives Teresa Jeffs literally up a tree.

(Photo by the Deseret News)

You want stress? Try being Teresa Jeffs. The Deseret News;

"'I don't want to do it,' Jeffs said outside of court. 'It's weird.'

While waiting to testify, Jeffs decided to climb a tree, amusing some spectators.'

I'd say she really wants to get away.

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Predictable Result, Malonis & Walther win.

No Recusal. No change of attorney. Willie Jessop barred from Teresa Jeffs for 90 days.

The Salt Lake Tribune - "Malonis was prepared to present more evidence about why she wants Jeffs's mother to keep the girl away from Jessop, including apparently e-mails they exchanged. But, as urged by Walther, attorneys avoided a hearing by negotiating an agreement that extends a restraining order issued Friday for another 90 days."

Apparently the compromise that resulted involved the following;

"Walther granted Malonis' request that Jeffs be reunited with her mother and siblings under special restrictions, making her the only child governed by such an order.

The order says Jeffs may have no contact with her father or a man named Raymond Jessop. She also is prohibited from living at the YFZ Ranch - and today Walther also turned down the girl's request that she be allowed to spend the night at the ranch before making her grand jury appearance.

Jim Schmidt, an attorney for Texas Child Protective Services, said that doing so would be 'counterproductive for what we are trying to do' and not in Jeffs' best interest. Instead, Jeffs and her mother stayed at a hotel. "

Is it just me or does it seem to you that it's OBVIOUS they don't care about the "child?" It's "COUNTERPRODUCTIVE FOR WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO?" I thought this was about the children.

"Afterward, on the courtroom steps, Malonis said: 'Life goes on. I'm happy. I'm just exhausted.'"

Who cares if YOU'RE happy? Putting this teen through this torture should tear you up, even if you ARE right you IDIOT. (I was temped to use another word, but I restrained myself.)
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No indication the Walther-Malonis Team has adjourned for the evening. It's a full on Smoker?

Fight club is it? Maybe I'm reading it wrong but every news report I can get my hands on says the hearing is still in progress. If that's NOT the case, let me know. All I can say is Annette must have picked a great attorney. Barbara NEVER misses the dinner bell. More →

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Annette Jeffs attempts to have Judge Walther Recused

Predictably it didn't work and I guess their still at it;

The Salt Lake City Tribune - "On Friday, Walther approved and signed a temporary restraining order Malonis sought to block contact between Teresa Jeffs and FLDS spokesman Willie Jessop. The order instructed Annette Jeffs, the girl's mother, to keep her from Jessop and set a court hearing in the matter for Tuesday afternoon.

But the hearing was temporarily halted after Annette Jeffs sought Walther's recusal. Her motion pointed out that security was placed around the judge's home after Texas law enforcement circulated dossiers that alleged Jessop was an enforcer for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.

The motion questioned whether, given that security, Walther could be impartial in a case involving Jessop. Malonis alleges that the girl's push for a new attorney was due to coercion from Jessop."

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The Teresa Jeffs Saga - It gets better

She's almost 17, The San Angelo Standard-Times;

"This is an almost 17-year-old girl who has an extremely poor relationship with her lawyer," (Rod) Parker said. "It's the girl reaching out to Willie, and not the other way around."

It would be useful to know what month her birthday falls in and amusing to know if it turned out to be July or August. The hearing is at 2pm this afternoon CDT. More →

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Malonis-Walther-Brower Tag Team vs Teresa Jeffs

I don't think she stands a chance, because they won't listen to her. Nonetheless if it were on merits and sincerity, I'm sure Teresa Jeffs would whup 'em all. You go girl, be brave.

The San Angelo Standard-Times - (There is a) "2 p.m. hearing in the Tom Green County Courthouse will determine whether a temporary restraining order against Willie Jessop issued Friday by 51st District Judge Barbara Walther should be extended.

On Wednesday, the Schleicher County grand jury is expected to meet and hear evidence presented by the Texas Attorney General's Office in the case, which was sparked by a weeklong raid begun April 3 raid on the sect's YFZ Ranch near Eldorado."

(So it's going on right now.) CORRECTION, it will be TOMORROW. Pray for Teresa, I don't know if she's there or not but she should be. The Standard-Times is continuing the fiction that Teresa not be named because of allegations.

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The Third Pregnant Girl?

Is apparently Teresa Jeffs. Don't get me wrong, she isn't pregnant. She hasn't been. She is the last great lie it would seem of the CPS and she's about to be exposed as being chaste, virginal and not a victim of abuse.

So another theory has to be advanced if she is not a smokescreen or if that is only one of the purposes that Barbara Athaliah Jezebel Walthers has by using her in this way. One of her purposes may be CONCEALMENT. By using Grand Jury proceedings Jezebel Walthers can possibly enjoin her from speaking. At some point after the serving of the subpeona and the beginning of testimony Teresa may legally have to shut up. In which case she has about 48 hours to say her say or she won't be able to until the Grand Jury's work is over. Either that, or she already is in contempt.

Concealment also involves pixelating Teresa's face and not publishing Teresa's name though this virtuous maiden wishes now to shout from every rooftop and every street corner that her reputation is wrongly sullied, and her virtue intact. Texas by method of this concealment, preserves the ability to lead the press willingly around by the nose pretending there is a 3rd pregnant underage teen when there is only a 16 year old that has never known a man.

A number of people have approached me and asked what I'm going on about with the 3rd girl and told me it is Teresa. I have rejected up until this point that claim based on an article I read, but now cannot find in which it was said the "girl" in question was going to give birth this month. I cannot find that article. I thought I had linked to it. If it exists anywhere else but my aging geriatric mind, someone who knows please direct me to it. I can't find it any longer. If the third girl is Teresa, the state has a lot of explaining to do. They have essentially abused a virtuous young girl for the purposes of hiding the fact that they never had a cause for the second warrant, which is based on "seeing" a pregnant underage girls.

If this is the case, Texas now stands as not only an abuser, but a hostage taker and it's agents have obstructed justice. Those obstructing justice would be primarily Barbara Walthers and one of her prominent henchpersons would be Ms. Malonis, the attorney ad litem for Teresa Jeffs. I suggest they both be arrested.

If you want to read Teresa's letters yourself, they are published at "Free the FLDS Children." More →

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Will Barbara Pay? The Judge meets Warren Jeffs' Daughter in a steel cage match.

Barbara Walthers 11th hour move on Friday, similar to her walk out before signing custody back over to FLDS parents may blow up in her face this time. This is local politics playing out on a national level with the attention that comes with it.

A 16 year old may get the best of her, complaining bitterly and publicly that she doesn't want her attorney, she may just get her wish, and in so doing, blow up Barbara's Grand Jury. We'll see. More fireworks later today. Go get her Teresa! More →

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Is Teresa Jeffs just a Smoke Screen?

There, I went and said it. I used her name. I promise that I will take it down if her family contacts me and says "take it down." (UPDATE: Brooke Adams and the Salt Lake Tribune just named her at 9:22pm MDT) I sincerely believe this is just a publicity stunt on the part of the CPS and their allies. Teresa will not testify to anything that will help them. It is not necessary for Willie Jessop to intimidate her for her testimony to favor the FLDS. So why would they do it then? Is Texas THAT stupid? I contend that they are not. I'll start at the end of the Deseret News article;

"'It is my own dear feelings and doings. Right now I am just at home, sitting on my bed. Does it sound like I have dissappeared (sic)? To tell you the truth, I havn't (sic) tried very hard at all to dodge this subpoena. Of course I am not just going to go running for it! I know how to think for myself, if you can believe it!' she wrote. 'This is how I feel and I just thought I would let you know.'"

I have no doubt these are Teresa Jeffs sincere opinions and I have little doubt that Judge Walthers knows that and the Attorney ad Litem (Malonis) knows it as well. So why do it?

One reason is to create the headlines that it does, and which few people read past. First came the rumor mill naming Willie an "enforcer" and "intimidator" or "King Willie the Thug." Then comes this order over a girl that will not testify in favor of the CPS, and they get to have headlines like "Judge's order shields FLDS girl from harassment," in the San Antonio Express-News and "Sect chief's daughter seeks order against FLDS official" in the Houston Chronicle. You have to admit from the stand point of headlines and their PR value going into a dead dry news weekend for the FLDS Fiasco, it's a pretty good move.

Cynical? Yes? Immoral? Certainly. Effective? Quite.

The Texas CPS and Judge Walthers have slipped right back into the rumor mill but now are using restraining orders to falsify the news. Even Ben Winslow the reporter at the Deseret News treats the email alledgedly from Teresa with suspicion and goes through the protocol of not using her name. Teresa also says;

"'Oh, Natalie, please don't make this case harder,' the e-mail says. 'Shut your mouth up and quit calling me a victim of sexual abuse. I am so sick of being called that when I am absolutely not a victim of sexual abuse and you have no evidence to prove that I have ever had sexual relations. The most help you will be to me now is for you to step aside and let me get a different lawyer that I feel like can help me.'"

Early in this conflict, about the time Rod Parker DARED Texas to come up with a "pregnant underage girl" I made the choice to believe the FLDS whenever there was a conflict of fact between them and the Texas CPS. Why? I am on record as not approving of the FLDS religion and seeing it as a perversion of the True Christian Faith but there was one thing that was CERTAIN about the proceedings up to that point. The FLDS did not LIE. CPS was regularly being proven to have lied. In using the FLDS/Truth CPS/Lie model I have NEVER been dissapointed. I go by experience. The FLDS whatever else they are, are not liars. Thus I BELIEVE this to be a genuine unforced letter from Teresa Jeffs. I don't think Judge Walthers disbelieves it either.

So Judge Walthers has succeeded in painting Willie as a horrible disgusting ogre right before the Grand Jury proceedings. He will be watched like a hawk if he shows up, if he coughs there will be a big show of dragging him out of the court room. It's all a show for the media. It's also an eleventh hour distraction not unlike the "Raid, part Duex" in which CPS officials went back to the ranch right before the Order was issued to return the children, seeking more children. Their case was collapsing and they sought to disrupt the FLDS logistically and it worked. People poured out of the courthouse in San Angelo in panic because they thought it was happening all over again. The article starts this way, without mentioning Teresa's name;

"16-year-old (Teresa Jeffs, who is) at the center of a legal fight has finally been subpoenaed to testify before a Texas grand jury investigating members of the Fundamentalist LDS Church.

The girl's mother was given a subpoena on Saturday, the girl's court-appointed attorney told the Deseret News. It orders the girl to show up this week to testify in Eldorado before a grand jury considering criminal charges stemming from the raid on the FLDS Church's YFZ Ranch."

It proves two things. That the CPS is completely willing to use and abuse those who it says it is there to protect, and that the flight risk is none at all. They knew RIGHT where to find her. They also regard her mother as her agent, because they served her. Texas will drag this girl into court and traumatize her or traumatize her by actually forcing her to take the stand and answer invasive questions and paint her as a slut before the whole world.

A virgin. At 16. Persecuted for not having sex and being married underage. This is for you Teresa;

Proverbs 31:10: "Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies."

You are that woman.

Barbara. You should be ashamed of yourself. Torturing a child to get to her father and to her friends. Cynically using her to tar the reputation of your enemies. You Jezebel. Athaliah.

UPDATE: If you want some amusement and don't mind kicking up his stat counter, go visit the blogger (Texas Blues Man) over at "Coram Non Judice" and watch him get his blues kicked.

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Judge Grants Order? No, Barbara Walters Grants Order barring Willie Jessop from 16 year old.

Right, a "Texas Judge." It's Barbara "Vendetta" Walthers. The Salt Lake Tribune;

"A Texas judge has temporarily barred an FLDS spokesman accused of intimidation from contacting a daughter of polygamous sect leader Warren S. Jeffs.

Attorney Natalie Malonis, joined by guardian ad litem Connie Gauwain, filed a motion Friday asking for a restraining order against Willie Jessop.

Fifty-first District Judge Barbara Walther granted the request just before court closed. The judge also ordered Annette Jeffs, the girl's mother, to notify law enforcement if Jessop attempts to contact her. Walther set a hearing on the matter for next week."

Right before close time. What corruption. This girl has tried to get RID of this attorney. The idea is to get the girl and indoctrinate her themselves. Maybe SCARE her a little before her testimony so it can be manipulated. She's 16, she's a CHILD per their description. They're ABUSING her.

UPDATE, the disgusting San Antonio Express-News titles the story THIS WAY:

Wait for it....

It's coming....

"Judge's order shields FLDS girl from harassment."
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