Showing posts with label Extradition. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Extradition. Show all posts

Wednesday, November 17, 2010

Why you want Warren to Win his appeal, even if you want Warren in Jail forever.

It's quite simply, the sixth amendment of the US Constitution.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.
During this business in Texas, I have heard, unchallenged, the assertion that the State (in this case Texas) has the "right to a fair trial." No such right exists for the State. The State is not a person, people have rights in the United States. The State? It has none.

I have also heard, as an obscene echo of the "Borking" of Clarence Thomas (and other political figures), that the "seriousness of the charges" somehow outranks the less serious charges in Utah.

In short, I hear a lot of what amounts to "horse feathers" and myth in regard to the rights of the State in the matter of "The State of Texas VS the FLDS."

I was not a big fan of Warren in the past, but even in my most loathing stage of Warren Jeffs dislike, I disliked even more the way in which Utah, the United States and various other states were trying to "get" him. I believed from the outset that Warren should not be convicted, and when he was, I saw it as a travesty of justice.

So taking a page from "the time when I thought Warren was a creep," I recommend that you too put aside personal dislike and deal with what is really at stake for you, in the way Warren is being treated.

Warren, per our US Constitution, has Sixth amendment rights. If his are not adequately defended, if the existence of Sixth amendment rights are said to be compromised by a State right to a "fair trial" or a superiority of "Serious Charges" (charges that Warren must be regarded as "not guilty" of until proven otherwise), you lose. You lose big.

Arguments that Texas must have Warren before charges in Utah are resolved (because Texas' charges are more serious) are nowhere found in the US Constitution. The argument that Texas might need him now, so as to better prosecute him and obtain a "fair trial" for Texas, this argument too is nowhere found in the US Constitution.

Warren's Sixth Amendment rights are YOUR Sixth Amendment rights. You cannot compromise them without compromising your own. You might need them. A loved one of yours might need them. Warren needs them and if you don't let him have them, you won't have them. At least, you won't have a full version of them.

The practical upshot of Warren winning his appeal is quite simple. There will be no new trial in Utah. Warren will "go free," and summarily be arrested by Texas in some way shape or form, and go to Texas. You, who hate Warren, will be deprived only of one thing. The illusion that Warren Jeffs is being sought for rape in Utah, and the illusion that Warren Jeffs was on the "FBI Ten Most Wanted" list for a crime that he was actually guilty of.

You still get Warren in Texas. He is still tried in Texas. He's just tried as Warren Jeffs, who has never done anything wrong (so far as we know) in his life. If he has done something wrong, you'll get your chance to prove it.

In the meantime, by rooting for him briefly, you'll do yourself a big favor.
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Monday, November 15, 2010

Warren ain't goin' NOWHERE...

At least for the next two days:
The Salt Lake Tribune - "(Warren) Jeffs will remain in Utah at least until Nov. 17, when the state’s response to Jeffs appeal is due. The court will likely take a day or two to make a decision on the case, said Utah State Courts spokeswoman Nancy Volmer."
That answers THAT question.
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Tuesday, July 27, 2010

Warren's Extradition hearing vacated

What's that I hear?
Is that the sound of an extradition turning into a rendition, or into NOTHING?
The Atlanta Journal Constitution - "Jeffs had been scheduled to appear in Utah's 3rd District Court on Tuesday so a judge could ask him to sign a warrant seeking his extradition to Texas, but the hearing was canceled after the Supreme Court's ruling."
The Atlanta paper's article is the best one so far, that I have found, in terms of being complete.
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Tuesday, July 20, 2010

Warren's Extradition Hearing is a week from today (UPDATED & Confirmed)

In front of Judge Terry Christiansen.

I was hearing yesterday, and read a brief blurb at a local TV affiliate in Salt Lake, that Warren Jeffs would have his hearing next Tuesday. Nothing else though, except this:
"An extradition hearing in the Warren Jeffs case has been set for July 27 at 1:30 pm @ the West Jordan Courthouse, Judge Terry Christiansen."
Not wanting to spread rumors on something a week out, that wouldn't change in all likelyhood, I asked a source for confirmation. Now the rumor mill (which might be based on the same little snippet) is saying the same thing.

The text only survives in a "Google" search and refers to the same story I read, but that story did not contain those details, when I read it. It sounds like someone was either wrong, or asked to be less specific. The Deseret News and Associated Press are now confirming the story, which also corroborates my information that the "real" hearing, will be in 30 days. About 60 days from when service was first attempted on Warren:
"Utah courts spokeswoman Nancy Volmer said Jeffs will be asked to sign the papers again at a July 27 hearing before 3rd District Judge Terry Christiansen. If Jeffs declines, Volmer said another hearing would likely be set."
The more I read on "extradition," the more this looks like a case not of extradition, but "rendition."

What do I know? Someone will set me straight, I'm sure.

Another rumor I am hearing is that there will be an evidentiary hearing with relationship to Warren's extradition and/or rendition. I don't know what venue this will take place in, and again, it's a rumor.

If it is in Utah, this is why I predict the charges may very well be dropped. Them big hats in Texas, won't show if the Judge is anywhere near fair, and allows Doran and Long (and others) to be questioned under oath.
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