Wednesday, October 28, 2009

Walther Brooms all FLDS members from Jury (UPDATED)

Can you say appeal? "Patterico" apparently can:
The Salt Lake Tribune - "The jury in the trial, being held before 51st District Judge Barbara Walther, includes seven women and seven men; five are Latino; none is a member of the FLDS sect."
Statistically that is nearly impossible, unless of course, you are after a particular group of people.

From most counts nearly one in three surviving juror candidates late yesterday were FLDS, none made it to the jury.
The San Angelo Standard-Times - "Professor Arnold Loewy, a Texas Tech University law professor, said dismissing the FLDS members out of hand from the pool of prospective jurors might raise questions of religious freedom and of whether Raymond Jessop is getting a fair trial from a jury of his peers, but prosecutor Eric Nichols will likely strive to purge the FLDS sect members from the jury pool."
Of course, no motives are assigned to Walther.

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Ron in Houston said...

Well first, Walther didn't do it. Jurors are randomly assigned and then picked by both defense and prosecution. Walther only rules on the questionable ones.

Second, it's not grounds for an appeal. Since the FLDS were only up there for less than a minute, there was an insufficient record made to support an appeal. Further, if they had been examined their beliefs would have prevented them from being seated on the jury. Stevens knew this that's why he didn't press the issue and they were only up before the bench for less than a minute.

The Pharisee said...

Well, first of all Ron, you just said she did rule on jurors.

Second, a law professor says it could be grounds for appeal.

I know that Law professor's name and qualifications, I only know that you are "Ron."

Ron in Houston said...

Well, Mr. I use my name:

Read the entry for 1:55 p.m. on Thursday 10/29/09 and think again.

I told you:

1. He didn't question them long enough to preserve error

2. Since he didn't try to keep them, then Walther never had to rule, so once again you're wrong.

Maybe if you listened to people you only know as "Ron" you might not post so much ignorant misinformation.

But hey, it's your site so if you want to post misinformation, go right ahead.

The Pharisee said...

Ron, Ron...


Dunno your last name or your expertise. It seems that there are now several published opinions that say you don't know what you're talking about, and I don't know enough about you to know if you know what you're talking about.

None of you anonymous trolls matter. I can count on you to fly the company flag, and therefore only be right when coincidentally, the truth and what benefits your side, match up.

Ron in Houston said...


Point me to published opinions that say that "I don't know what I'm talking about."

I posted on Brooke's blog when she said that FLDS were up there for less than one minute that the attorneys had agreed to exclude them. It appears that the El Dorado success corroborates my statements.

Care to point me to corroboration of your pontifications that Walther will recuse herself?

The Pharisee said...

They are on this blog, recently. Maybe you should read it MORE, RON.....

As far as me saying she would recuse herself? It was a guess and I said it was. It was qualified.

The only thing that makes me think you are a real lawyer is that you constantly mischaracterize what I said as something else.

Lawyers do that. Even bad ones.