Thursday, July 29, 2010

Warren's "Porn" (real or fake) probably predates The Raid

I just posted this over at "The Polygamy File" at the Salt Lake Tribune:
The more I think about it, the more I think “The Tape” or “The Transcript,’ exists. If so, the likelihood that it/they were in the possession of authorities prior to the raid is very high. This is the reason that Jonny knows about it. It was probably brought to him by his bagman Sammy Shamus.

Examine the pattern of the raid and what they were looking for and what they were so sure they (Texas) would find. The belief in the “informant” (there would have to be such an informant to have “The Tape/Transcript”) seemed righteous to me. What I mean by righteous is it seemed to me Doran really believed it.

Subsequently on the news we heard ravings about the “sex bed” and so on. The Ranch was searched looking for pictures of Jeffs’ 12 year old bride and looking for the things described on “The Tape/Transcript” that Jonny describes. The media coverage fit a template leading up to the “discovery” of such a “Tape.”

So I have no doubt “The Tape” and/or “The Transcript” exists. What I doubt is that they found it at YFZ. All sorts of rumors have been floated about “The Tape” and “The Transcript” in the day and a half since it’s disclosure by Jonny on AC, but I’m telling you, if Texas had it, Texas would have had Warren a long time ago.

If there is corruption as Toobin and Krakauer suggest in the court system, it would be because “The Tape” IS genuine and was discovered recently and this was told to Conn and the Supremes in Utah, and they paved the way to turn Warren over to Texas.

I wouldn’t listen to the news again for 20 years after that, it’s going to be X-Rated Child Porn. You couldn’t watch ABC’s “Wide World of Sports” for 30 years without seeing that guy crack up on the ski ramp. You can’t talk about Nixon without Watergate and we won’t be able to hear about polygamy without “hearing every grunt.”
I've held my tongue too many times before (believe it or not) and watched events pass me by. For instance, I knew that the Supremes were going to spring Warren before they did. If "Blogger" keeps original time stamps recorded somewhere, an examination of my Dashboard would tell you that's true. The above goes out on a limb, and if I find the time I'll piece together all the disparate circumstantial evidence that matches the pattern of the search and behavior of LE at YFZ during the raid and what was said about the raid before during and right after it. I can still remember Bill O'Reilly ranting about the "sex bed."

To me at least, the pattern of the raid looked very much as if they had a "treasure map" and were looking for specific items. Doran did appear to me to be a "true believer" in the "informant." If faked, "The Tape" is the "New Sarah" that is being used to justify everything in a fight that has now retreated almost entirely to Texas. Texas, where Judges are elected and subject to political influence in a very real way.

If real it's either the proverbial "other shoe" or "trump card" that Texas has been keeping their powder dry on for over two, maybe three or four years. One still wonders why it wasn't on the warrant, unless they were looking for "The Original Tape" and didn't want people to know that was what they were looking for.

But if it is true, it's been in the hands and mouths of the biggest blabbermouths and attention whores West of the Pecos now for 2-4 years, and they've also held their tongue on it, until Tuesday, when Jonny shot his mouth off, and Anderson Cooper showed his colors by not asking him, "How do you know this?"

Do I have to go into a long explanation on the chain of custody on this "evidence?"

Tony Alamo's bust occurred after all the mistakes of YFZ, and the "Kiddie Porn" allegation was front and center. You can't get me to believe that this wouldn't have been smeared all over the media if they had it and had real corroboration. This "Tape" is an urban legend that is being passed around as the real thing. IMHO of course.


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2 comments:

I_hate_bigots said...

I think even more than the convictions - Texas wanted the children.

If there really was a verified tape- I doubt very much it wouldn't have been used at the custody hearings. It would have been good evidence for the to use to prove the mothers were a direct danger.

So I'm guessing it's one of two things. They might have a tape with grunts on it - grunts are like ink blots - what you will see depends on your world views. The Feds might have even taken it to a Federal judge - who said no.

Or they might have a tape with very specific info on it - and it was analyzed and determined to be fake. I wonder if the chain of custody went from LE to the activists or the activists to LE?

The Pharisee said...

Almost certainly Activist Antis to LE. Krakauer is already involved in witness tampering.