Saturday, January 10, 2009

"Can anyone presume to tell where religious instruction ends and brainwashing begins?"

Hat tip to blogger "Sandy" at Introspection of a Plural Wife (at Heart). Iain Hunter writes the column that says it all
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The Victoria Times-Colonist - "I've seen high Anglicans genuflecting, Quakers quaking and holy rollers rolling in their places of worship, and it has occurred to me that something has happened to their brains. But when they emerge, shriven or whatever, they seem perfectly normal again.

It's the same with people of other faiths I've seen on TV, lacerating their bodies, beheading live chickens and crawling with their faces in the mud. I presume they have families to look after and jobs to go to.

What the Bountiful women have done, though, is more permanent. They've hitched themselves, like sled dogs, to one man so that he can 'raise up seed' and qualify to get to the celestial kingdom.

If they, and their man, really believe this is their religious duty, what right has any non-believer to stop them from performing it? And how can anyone presume to tell where religious instruction ends and brainwashing begins?"


Also he points out this circular logic, unseen by its users;

"A lot of people seem to assume that these young, healthy women in a polygamous relationship have been brainwashed by those with religious authority over them. They believe no self-respecting sister would subject herself to this kind of arrangement of her own free will. Ergo, this must be stopped."


All Polygamy is backward and abusive and it is self evidently so. Therefore, any woman in one, has to be brainwashed, and must be rescued and deprogrammed. But at Short Creek years ago, and in Texas today, there are no Patricia Hearsts, no victims of Stockholm syndrome that "snap out of it." The still believe, what they believed before when they were being abused at close quarters and being brainwashed after 9 months of "choice," or maybe they just believe it.

"Attorney General Wally Oppal's determination to lay criminal charges against Winston Blackmore, with 26 wives at last count, and James Oler, with two, is something that a lot of people would have applauded about 60 years ago when it was supposedly first considered by the government of the day.

The opinion of most legal experts seems to be, though, that it's too late. The Charter of Rights' guarantee of religious freedom, they say, overrides the Criminal Code's section outlawing polygamy, the section the Crown has chosen to use to prosecute the two men."

Read it all.


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5 comments:

Elusive Wapiti said...

"A lot of people seem to assume that these young, healthy women in a polygamous relationship have been brainwashed by those with religious authority over them. They believe no self-respecting sister would subject herself to this kind of arrangement of her own free will."

Three thoughts here:

1) The liberal's totalitarian skirts are showing here. The only correct choice is one they agree with.

2) Their contempt for the free will of others is staggering. Suppose these women choose polygyny?

3) How is the subtle polygamy (married to the State while also siphoning $$ off her ex-husband through a divorce that she initiated) of a goodly portion of modern American woman any different from the more over kind practiced by FLDS and other places in the world? Moreover, how is overt polygamy any more morally reprehensible than serial polyandry (which also serves to provide multiple income streams to one woman).

Seems to me that if one is going to cry about the speck of another's polygyny, one needs to address the mote of one's own polyandrous nature.

Anakin Niceguy said...

Yeah, then there is polygamy of the groupies that follow Mr. GQ. In other words, chicks have this irrational attraction towards a man who involved with other women.

The Pharisee said...

People do right things for the wrong reasons, and wrong things for the right reasons.

Obstructionist said...

Its 21 wives, not 26! After his first wife divorced him and 4 were reassinged after his split with Warren Jeffs, 21 remained!

There are many issues, including the fact that more than half were American's, allowed to be absorbed into Canadians, benefitting from Taxes. Because of Fumarase disease, the FLDS needed the American gene pool and vice-versa!

Interview with Canada INS tape #4 in 2000;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ95YXggUPs

Canada INS Interview #3 in the year 2000;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Z3FMJxrSY

Canada INS interview #2 in September of 2000;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzQBHb248WA

Canada INS Interview #1 in 2000 Carol remarks at what her government knew;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_DlDojGCi0

RCMP #5 Interview;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Rf_d7oFaQ

RCMP Canada #4 in the year 2000;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltm_hq-AsKw

RCMP #3 in the year 2000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLUkqEbuMks

RCMP #2 Interview from the year 2000;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1UDlxOnufg

RCMP Interview #1 recorded 8 years ago;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4JpGiOUqyk

Canada Geograms December of 2000;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3mqagTzJt4

The Pharisee said...

However, there are only charges of polygamy, so I'm not sure what your doing other than linking to outside sites, which is ok, I guess. Explain yourself a bit more if you would please.