Thursday, February 19, 2009

Revisiting when Texas knew.

Something critical happened, that if known, would expose a fact Texas does not want known. It happened at 10:40am, CDT, April 9th, 2008. It's in regard to Rozita Swinton, and the raid was still going on.
In addition, the area code, and phone number of the phone calls was known to Texas from day one, and they knew it was coming from a Colorado Springs phone number. That may seem obvious, but Texas has tried to hide how early and how specific their knowledge was. Texas just flat knew and they knew early on. Bare minimum, they knew while they were still raiding and carting off evidence. So did the FBI. Not so odd then, that Mark D. White of the Dallas office of the FBI says he CAN'T talk to me. After all, there is a Federal Grand Jury now. They figured that they'd have so much obvious evidence by the time they were inside, that they didn't care the call was bogus, they were just glad they had it. It gave them an excuse. Page 4 of the PDF.

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TxBluesMan said...

LOL, as I mentioned on my blog, you should look at the second warrant - it was served at 10:40 a.m.

Anything that happened after that time is immaterial to the admissibility of the evidence...

The Pharisee said...

That may be the time of the second warrant blues, but they want everything hidden at that point, and it's more relevant that they want everything hidden.

You're defending a group of people who need to hide in the dark, that are on the supposed side of justice.

WE as private citizens have a right to privacy, from unreasonable search and seizure. THEY are the prosecution. Affording them such sweeping protections is inviting tyranny.

At some point blues, you need to side with freedom, not with tyranny. Thanks though for tying that in with the second warrant.

TxBluesMan said...

LOL, I am on the side of freedom.

The right of children to be free of abuse and marriages.

The right of the people of Texas to determine their own laws and to enforce those laws.


The Pharisee said...

You side with mindless bureaucratic tyrants, to your own enslavement. Take care little boots.

ztgstmv said...

dozens of families lives were violated in most heinous fashion. The state of Texas says it's okay because they all were suspect. They all were at the ranch.

At some point, everyone should step back and say whoah, wait a second. Previous case law has dealt with maybe a family or a handful at most on a ranch, but not dozens of families and hundreds of children. At some point someone needs to address the reality of the fact that no provisions by LE were made for the expected consequence that many innocent families would be searched and seized from unjustifiably.

That's the totally wreckless disregard for the Constitution and individual rights that I would like to see addressed more by Mr. Picaretta.

ztgstmv said...

Anything that happened after that time is immaterial to the admissibility of the evidence...

If that's true, then it doesn't make much sense, particularly when you're dealing with what may be corrupt officials.

For instance, what to make of the fact that the officials not only have done everything but investigate the hoax caller, but are now actively trying to ignore the fact at every turn? All this kind of damages the credibility of the Rangers and ranger Long in particular no? Oh but all this is happening after April 9th, so it's irrelevant? What if, in the hypothetical, it's shown that LE destroyed the evidence obtained from Rozita's apartment? Does the fact that it was destroyed after April 9th, 2008, mean it's irrelevant to the suppression of the warrant? C'mon be honest.

And how about the recent release of hundreds of pages of dictations and writings by Warren Jeffs for a so called child custody case. What was that all about? Kind of shows a pattern of continuing bad faith in practice, when it comes to dealing with those subhuman FLDS rural folk.

They call it "totallity of circumstances" for a reason -- and it's not so that Ranger John can do what he wants with impunity so long as the proper forms were signed and a superficial showing of probable cause was produced to justify the wholesale assault on hundreds of people's lives.

TxBlogger said...

Yes, Why anything after 9 April, instead of anything after 4 April when Walther issued the gag order?